Bah. Manny is an unrepetant fuckhead, and there’s little question in my mind he would’ve been banned already if it were someone else’s name at the top of those offending posts.
It’s good to see that since he lost his modhood, he lost his invulnerability* as well, as evidenced by a few people chiming in with denouncements of his behavior (past and present). And if there’s any justice, this thread will turn into a manhattan manwich, hopefully including a manny meltdown.
So I guess what this comes down to is not whether he’s been a jerk before, but whether or not he was warned. For the record, I don’t blame Gaudere, I find her to be generally fair and reasonable, and this puts her in a very difficult position. But overall, I’m with sailor on this one.
sailor would have been better off refraining from such language as “this is a lie”, it’s not exactly an insult, but it does push the bounds of politeness. Conversely, manny could have said a lot of different things in response, he could have called sailor on his conduct, or even performed an over-reaction-lite by posting a pit thread. Instead he accused sailor of being, not objectively, but directly pro-pedophelia. And that is completely wrong, no ifs, ands, or buts. Just… wrong.
manny is an intelligent man who does a lot of research for his position. He is also poisonous to almost any debate where someone dares to call something he says into question. If collounsbury gets banned for the mean things he said, but manny gets by with a feathery slap on the wrist for the completely indefensible things he said, there will be no doubt in my mind that an injustice has been allowed to stand as tall and strong as a statue, and in full sight of all.
In the end though, it’s all just a matter of time, and manny’s time will come. Worry not sailor, just try this: take a deep breath, let it out, and then scream “Fuckhead! Fuckhead! Fuckhead! Fuck that fuck in his fucking fucked head!” It may not make you feel better, but it will encourage your neighbors to keep a wide berth.
*I recall a time two years ago, when RTA made the mistake of poking a bit of fun at something manny said in support of drilling ANWAR. RTA’s comments were, at worst, sarcastic and content-free, an offense that I’m sure manny has withstood from the direction of many others. But apparently RTA’s comment simply would not stand. He calls him a cheapshot artist. Rather than get into a pissing contest, RTA says “hey, isn’t that pit-talk?” Did manny reconsider his reaction? Did he think, even for a moment, that he might have been unnecessarily brash? Of course not.
Instead he brings the whole thing down to the pit, calls RTA a bunch of names, and waits for the accolades from the audience. He was not dissapointed. The people lined up to be the first to pucker up to his mod-pucker, and ream RTA for his offenses (like being “dumb”, “content free”, or “really, really dumb”). Then elucidator comes in and suggests (in a manner completely free of insult, mind you) that maybe, just maybe, manny’s “assault is more befitting a humorless, self-righteous prig than the jolly openminded fellow we all know [him] to be.” Big mistake. He became the next target, and found out the age-old truth: it doesn’t matter what you’re saying, you can never win against a mob. (The funny thing is, after the whole thing died down, flowbark came in and showed point-by-point that RTA did not, in fact, lie. So manny turns around and says that it wasn’t actually the lie-that-wasn’t-a-lie that bothered him, it was the condescension, and he encouraged others to pit anyone who appeared to use condescension. He was able to do this 180 without losing even a hint of his self-righteous attitude. Sadly, nobody pitted manhattan in response.)
