Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024)

Never mind.

Joke, I know, but he wouldn’t be caught dead setting up shop there to commit any crimes in the first place. And quite possibly wouldn’t have been charged by local DAs even if they had a recorded confession.

If that were the primary consideration, it would actually be a politically motivated prosecution of the sort they are accused of.

They hopefully, though not as often as we like in the case of prominent figures, bring charges because there is sufficient evidence crimes have been committed, not because we hope to persecute particular people.

Googling finds many indications of Trump attending his children’s graduations at all levels of schooling.

Here is the high school link for Eric that I neglected to put in my last post:

How Eric Became a Trump

This is from a Pulitzer Prize finalist:

I can report that Trump flew to California to attend Tiffany’s 6th grade graduation, because I was there

I cannot vouch for the person who recalls Donald at Ivanka’s high school graduation, but since he obviously dislikes DJT, I see no reason to disbelieve:

Choate Dad Runs for President

There are lots of bad things to say about Donald Trump without random people on Twitter making stuff up.

You have to figure he’s at least entertained the possibility of committing crimes in the Zone of Death.

So it would appear that this case has an analogous prosecution - that of John Edwards, former senator and vice presidential candidate.

Except, Edwards was acquitted.

As a reminder, he had impregnated his girlfriend while his wife was dying of cancer. Some rich benefactors paid her to remain quiet. It was charged as campaign finance violations.

As best as I can tell, the problem with the prosecution was that the Michael Cohen role was played by a guy who was out for himself, and not acting as Edwards’ toadie.

(My emphasis)

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/06/how-the-edwards-prosecution-stumbled-076942

I think the facts in this case will come out decidedly different.

Rachel Maddow gets into the details on how Trump’s Justice Department thoroughly squashed any charges that might apply to Trump in the first few minutes of this video:

It looks like Don Snoreleone has nodded off again.

Sounds like the prosecution just finished their questions for the 18 prospective jurors that made it through the questionnaire. Defense is up after a short break. Then I suppose either side can use their peremptory challenges if they want to. If not, this 18 would be the jury (12 jurors plus 6 alternates).

They’re not necessary finished with cause challenges, as some are developed at this stage. You can also be assured that both sides will start using peremptory challenges when the time is right. The only time to hold back is when the replacement juror is worse. (Typically, but not always, you know who will fill the spot when you bump a juror.)

Trump apparently had a change of opinion about appearing at side bars. Probably worried he would have to wake up from a nap for them.

Thanks for that clarification. I assume any of these challenges would have to be approved by the judge?

Trump’s lawyer is done questioning the potential jurors, so now it’s on to whatever challenges they want to raise. Then I guess they will run through another batch of questionnaires to fill in those gaps.

ummm…Why shouldn’t he be sleeping in court? Is there anything wrong with that? :slight_smile:

Trump knows that the whole trial is just a stupid witch hunt run by the Biden crime family. He knows he is totally innocent , and has nothing to worry about. He has no actual function in the courtroom, and nothing to do except sit quietly because some stupid judge says he has to be physically present.
He doesn’t have enough brain capacity to understand the legalese, the technical motions/countermotions and objections. And his attention span is too short to listen to the issues being discussed in front of his face.
So, naturally, he goes to sleep.
Why not?
It shows how strong a leader he is, because he doesn’t waste energy paying attention to unimportant issues. :slight_smile:

[potential thread hijack]
(More seriously: I wonder if Trump is actually aware that this is a criminal trial, not a civil one, and that in a worst case scenario, he could conceivably join his buddy Michael Cohen in jail. Even if his lawyers have explained it to him, he probably didn’t believe it. And unfortunately, I think he is right…he doesn’t have to believe it, because it will never happen.)[end of hijack]

Trump’s philosophy about this is blindingly simple: He doesn’t think that anything he has said or done is wrong (legality be damned), therefore he is innocent of any wrongdoing. I really don’t think it goes any farther than that.

some of the answers to the questions have bubbled up. Live updates: Trump New York hush money criminal trial (cnn.com)

A prospective juror who works with seniors said Donald Trump “speaks his mind" and “stirs the pot.”

“You can’t judge him because he speaks his mind. I mean the way everyone wants to judge him for speaking his mind. … I know what’s right and what’s wrong,” she said.

Trump lawyer Todd Blanche pressed her to explain what she thought of that behavior.

“I mean, he speaks his mind, come on, what can you say about that? If I told you all the time what I thought about people — I want to say some things to people, but my momma said be nice.”
Another potential juror, who was previously an attorney, said he’s followed the news around Donald Trump.

“I was a big fan of the Apprentice when I was in middle school,” the man said, according to pool reports. People laughed in the courtroom.

some have been let go due to work other obligations.

the judge is keeping a tight, move it along courtroom.

Susan Necheles, part of Donald Trump’s legal team, said they need more time to go over the juror strikes with the former president.

She wanted to wait until after lunch to strike the jurors, saying by the time they get to their room across the hall, it will be lunchtime. Judge Juan Merchan reiterated their room is right across the hall and said, “you’re wasting time right now” and “why don’t you go get started?”

or this one

image|549x309

I LIKE that!

Those of you who have experience with large jury trials, do you have any thoughts on how protracted jury selection might be? I know this case is pretty unique, but it seems like juries have been selected in the past for strongly contested significant trials.

Also, can you offer any insight as to what would or would not be accpetable in a juror? It is hard to imagine finding 18 people who do not have SOME opinion about Trump. What does it take to be considered capable of fairly evaluating the evidence submitted?

Re: sleeping - I’m surprised a judge would allow that. Not the same, but last time my wife was called for jury duty, during voir dire as she was sitting in the gallery and another panel was being questioned, she was feeling tired (and bored) so she closed her eyes. She said very quickly the deputy tapped her and asked if she were feeling all right. She said yes, and he said she was not permitted to close her eyes during the process.

of the 18 that went through the questioning, 4 of them are lawyers. the who stays and who goes will start when court resumes a bit after 2 eastern.

Sorry to ask things I ought to be able to look up myself, but does anyone here know the general hours for the court? Start, lunch, end?

9-4, usually hour for lunch.

It could be a few days, up to a few weeks. Depends on the culture of the courthouse and the individual judge. This seems to be going fairly fast, given the expected difficulties in finding unbiased jurors.