I am a little surprised that the jurors arent just Juror #1, Juros #2, etc etc.
Giving their names to trump and his lawyers just means threats.
Probably. I mean saying “I am heavily biased against trump” would be Okay, but your line might get you into trouble.
I’d tell them I’m WallyM7
I’m thinking that the contempt would come from having lied earlier. I’m pretty sure that the judge had originally asked jurors as a group if they would be too biased to serve. Large numbers of people raised their hand and were dismissed.
They only got into the specific questions, I think, after weeding out the obvious “no’s”. If a juror had a chance to point at Trump and speak to him, it would be after they had assured the court that they could be fair and impartial. It was at that point that the lawyers were nitpicking their histories.
“And the workers at the drop off said, 'Sir, this car is in better shape than when you rented it. Its like nothing we’ve ever seen before”
Is anyone else worried by the juror details being reported in the media? It seems like it would be easy to identify them with sufficient motivation.
Also it would be reported in the media and feed into Trump’s persecution narrative. I sure understand the temptation though.
Don’t forget that these were “big strong guys” who said this with tears in their eyes. /s
On msnbc, it is reported that trump has yet gone against the “gag” order, and posted something from Fox News regarding the jurors in the manhattan trial.
I’m not seeing it printed out at this time.
The judge may be white hot going into court tomorrow. From the discussion on the last word, Mr Weismann believes this post is a direct violation.
I take it you’ve never seen the legal documentary, Twelve Angry Men?
Here is the “Twuth” in question:
It appears pretty clearly to be a violation of the gag order, doesn’t it? DJT and his lawyers will likely say it doesn’t count since he’s just repeating Liar Liar Pants on Fire Jesse Watters but I doubt that will work.
They’ll try the primate house at the Bronx zoo so he can have a jury of his peers.
My answer on the questionnaire would be something like, “I don’t know. I loathe Trump but I don’t know if I’m too biased to serve.” If they wanted to follow up, my elaboration would be along the lines of, “I think he’s a monstrous human being who should have his wealth stripped from him and then die in jail, but I also have enough faith in and loyalty to the institutions of the country that I wouldn’t vote to convict unless I sincerely believed the state’s case had been proven. It would break my heart to find him not guilty, but on the other hand, if the state proves their case and I get to vote guilty and throw this bloated parasite in the clink, I’ll be drinking champagne later. You decide if I’m too biased.”
I don’t know if the process respects nuance. I’d leave it up to them.
Well Trump, first and foremost, please tell me who “they” are. Spare us no detail, I want to know all about it.
Second, if it is so goddamn easy to lie your way onto the jury why are you bitching about it instead of stacking the jury yourself?! (see also rigging elections)
Who’s to say they aren’t, or at least trying to (see Clay Travis’s suggestion above)?
Every accusation, etc. …
It takes a great deal of courage to stand alone.
LegalEagle on Trump’s gag order:
You took the words out of my mouth. I would say that as a programmer, I deal in facts.
The facts about Trump are clear for all to see. I could not just look at what evidence is presented at the trial. That fucker belongs in prison.
They got Capone on tax evasion. Though we all know that his guilt ran much, much deeper. Same with Trump.
Apparently Trump doesn’t believe any judge has the balls to lock up a presidential candidate. I’m not going to argue that Merchan should lock Trump up right now, but his Honor should give Trump a stern warning and disabuse him of the notion that he cannot be locked up. And then Merchan needs to follow through when Trump inevitably violates the gag order again.
A weekend at Rikers is the only stern warning that would have any effect on Trump.
I agree with the replicant too. Your statement is what I was getting at in the IMHO thread.
I agree, but Trump would use that as a campaign add to further his self interests.
Trump : “They locked my up for telling the truth! I’m trying to save YOU! And speaking of truth, make sure to make an account on Truth Social so you can here (<Trump spelling) the truth.”
The MAGA’s will of course go wild. An analogy - Do you turn down the stove when the pot starts to boil, or wait until it boils over?
