Manhattan: wake up call or whiny bitch?

This is a good thing.

Seconded. Bricker rocks.

And if you left, tomndebb would probably develop carpal tunnel syndrome filling the “vocal and theologically knowledgeable Roman Catholic” void. Don’t do that to tomndebb!

Only for Americans. If you take world politics into consideration this board is way right of center. But then, no American takes world politics into consideration.

The conservative posters on this board are some of the whiniest bitches I’ve ever seen. There’s a shitload of conservatives here, though most of them are libertarians instead of Bush apologists. It seemed like manhattan was in the latter category, in which case, he can find an outlet for his views at, oh I don’t know, almost anywhere in America. It’s not hard to find other president praisers if all you want is someone else to agree with everything you say.

Dibs on the lead guitar slot!

Nope. I usually agree with Manny, although I think I’m a bit more of a libertarian than he is. It’s easy to be preceived as a Bush apologist if you challenge the numerous nitwit Bushwhackers* around here often enough. I find myself explaining (not defending) Bush’s policies a lot because there are so many mischaracterizations and idiotic drive-by.

*The list in the OP is a good start, but there certainly are a few others, too.

Damnit, now I’ll never know if I’m pro-child prostitution or not. :frowning:

Enjoy,
Steven

Don’t wise up any time soon, okay?

Aw, gee, we won’t have as many posts saying “You libruls are so stoopid you can’t see Bush’s genius”. I go with “whiny bitch” myself. This board is not hostile to conservative thought, it’s hostile to dishonesty and childishness of any stripe. Some participants are able to learn and grow and help others learn and grow, some refuse to.

And Hamlet? It’s called “fighting ignorance”. It’s what the board is for. If you have issues with a post, it’s best to address them right in that thread, not take childish potshots at the posters - such as you’ve done in this utterly-unconstructive OP.

Jeez, what a friggin’ diva! Resigned? What kind of self-important sack o’ crap resigns from a message board? Why not just stop typing and quietly await the hordes begging your return?

And if our Tighty Righty brethren feel oppressed by a board with a strong ethos of argument from proof, they should look to their own. They should ask themselves how it came to be! Conspiracy? Treachery? The conservative movement in America has permitted itself to be co-opted by theofacist God-goons, and have no one to blame but themselves, if Big Barry G. were amongst us, he would be tearing the Dobsons and Robertsons new assholes on a daily basis.

If we are skewed to the left, pray, then, where is the center? There must be some demarcation, no? So where is it?

The Right’s problem here and elsewhere is that they are, in fact, a minority. They have achieved the trappings and power of majority by aligning themselves with a very negative element in politics, and have permitted themselves the comforting delusion that this is not so. When they come face to face with the rude facts, they are compelled to find some rationale that will preserve their hard-won illusions.

This board abound with smart-asses, why I love it. Argument from fact is the criteria, yippy skippy! Now, if you find yourself outnumbered in such a situation, ain’t that a bitch? It must be those lefty college professors. Must be that the Reader is an underground paper. Doggy Knees must be holding Cecil’s Mom hostage.

Or it could be simply that you are wrong.

Manny was gently condescending when he thought he had the best of an argument, and bitterly insulting when he didn’t. By no stretch of the imagination could he be held to exemplify propriety and cordial discourse. Hewill be missed by me mostly for presenting such a target-rich environment, such vulnerable zeppelins of pretension.

(I am reminded of a (possibly apocryphal) anecdote: “Wild Bill” Buckley wrote a book some years back, and sent a copy to his Betty Noyer “Norm!” Mailer. In the back, in the “references” section, next to “Mailer, Norman” he penned a little note: “Hi, Norman!”, on the presumption that this is the first place Mailer would turn. )

“Resign”. Sheeeesh!

Your capacity for deliberate misunderstanding is astonishing. It is equalled only by your compulsion for selective bias.

But we’ll still have some.

Well, to be fair elucidator, he only resigned from the SDAB, which I presume is the approriate action.

He resigned from the SDSAB, not the message board.

Point taken.

See? Please, Elvis, find a single post I’ve made in the past five years lauding the “genius of Bush.” Otherwise you’re simply lending conclusive support to my characterization of you.

If you’d stop paying 10 year olds for sex, you might have the time to figure it out yourself.

If you could come up with coherent, well supported arguments, it’s called fighting ignorance. What you do is idiotic bashing of anyone who does not hold your world view. And I’m not going to follow you around the boards pointing out your pointless ramblings and unsupported “arguments”.

Let me ask you something, why do you suppose that so many people, many of them, like me, who tend to agree with your stances, think that your a fucking waste of bandwidth? Massive conspiracy? Misunderstanding your righteous views? We’re all too dumb to understand? Seriously, do you think your reputation is unstained, or that it’s undeserved? Are you that delusional?

Look, you are part of the problem. No matter how many different issue I agree with you on, your still an embarrassment to my side. You’re Shodan with even less (if possible) of a sense of humor. And, no matter how many times these flaws are pointed out to you, you still don’t get it. You won’t be happy until all honest debate is shrouded in your shrieking. You and your ilk have done, and seemingly will continue to do, more harm to this message board than anything manny, TubaDiva, or a broken server could ever do.

He resigned from the SDSAB, as Ed’s message indicates - an action that was presumably expected, rather than leaving any writing assignments for the SDSAB hanging, unanswered, in space.

I think the problem here is that you’re an oil drop.

Specifically, you’re an oil drop in Milliken’s famous experiment. Milliken’s initial experiment got the wrong answer. Subsequent experiments did not immediately correct his error… they reported observations a BIT off from Milliken. Bit by bit, the observations drifted down into the “correct” range. Why did this happen? Because when people got results that differed from Milliken’s, they scrupulously tested and rested. When they got results close to Milliken’s, they accepted them without much worry. Milliken’s error should have been immediately apparent; it wasn’t.

So, too, here. When you spout nonsense, it’s not subjected to the same efforts of rigor and testing, because the nonsense meets with the approval of the reader. When I spout nonsense - and it DOESN’T meet with the approval of the reader - there is considerably more effort at attacking my data and my conclusions.

Yes, I find it surprising that people think this board leans to the left, or that there is a majority of liberals.

From the UK point of view, the Republicans are right-wing, with the fundamentalists on the extreme right. The Democrats are in the centre.
We take extensive gun control and a National Health service for granted. Religion has no role in our political life.

I run a message board – vBulletin based, just like the SDMB – for urban planners. Urban planning is a profession whose practitioners collectively skew towards the left. My moderation team includes two outspoken conservatives. One of the mod rules is:

We can’t help it if there’s a lot of Bush-bashing in the off-topic threads. However, it would be wrong for the mods to treat Hillary-bashing any differently.

Paying? Paying!!?!?

Enjoy,
Steven