Well then, it’s still Welsh: The Mandans (with whom Lewis & Clark spent the winter), were thought to be a lost tribe of Welshmen. So, having crossed the Pacific on Kon Tiki, they chose to settle New Zealand since, like their homeland of Wales, if you ironed the place out flat it would actually be bigger than continental Europe/Australia, and so they gave everyplace a long-ass name just like back home.
Oceania is this region of the pacific and includes NZ and Australia, long with many smaller countries. Australasia is also a fairly well accepted term used to describe Australia and NZ. So while you may be technicaly right, there was no need to be quite so snippy.
Yeah Oceania and Australiaia aren’t continents so much as regions though. There was a thread floating around asking which continent NZ was a part of.
And it’s about a 3.5 hour flight to NZ from Aus.
Actually, I think the Maori iwi or tribes would have been known by their individual names, such as Ngai Tahu and Nga Puhi, at the time of the Treaty of Waitangi in 1840, calm kiwi, rather than a general all-encompassing term such as tangata whenua (they certainly were approached to sign on a tribe-by-tribe basis) – but t’is all the same difference, in the end.
Though in the treaty they are refered to as the Tangata Whenua.
Actually, it looks like the Confederation of Tribes was referred to as “Tangata Maori”, calm kiwi, not tangata whenua. Appears to be a legal construct for the Treaty.
Point taken Ice. I could have sworn it did though 
May I take this opportunity to say:
YAY, GO THE ALL BLACKS!
Well, part at least of New Zealand used to be part of Australia. All we need do is simply reference back to Gondwanaland. What’s a hundred million years or two among friends?
True Polycarp but we are not always friends. YAY the ALL BLACKS 
I like this thread, I learned something.
But, please explain the “Yay the ALL BLACKS” posts. I’m lost 
and very curious.
“It takes two (Maori Indians) to tangata”?? 
“Whenua, you see,
At Waitangi agree,
That’s a Maori!”
::: ducks and runs :::
Notlisteningnotlisteningnotlistening…
Polycarp, are you married? I love puns!
NCB The All Blacks are our gods…I mean our national rugby team (black is NZ’s colour, nearly all our national sporting teams wear black uniforms). Saturday night was a big game between the All Blacks, it was the final of the tri-nations (Sth Africa, Aus and NZ) and the final of the Bledisloe cup. The Aussies have won the Bledisloe cup the last 6 years and now it is ours again. YAY the All Blacks.
Hehehe Polycarp that did make me giggle.
Ooops …between the Wallabies and the All Blacks, that should have been.
Sorry TheLoadedDog but it is OUR turn to gloat. We haven’t had many oppotunities until very lately!
Just a thought, calm kiwi – it is true that Aussies and Kiwis aren’t always friends.
But sometimes, we are damn good mates.
That aside – is anyone here going to tell the Land Rover crowd that their ad people are a bunch of daft, brainless pillocks, or what?
Jonah Lomu
::swoon smiley::
(though not a Maori. Tongan?)
::: envisions a bunch of Kiwis singing “Watch 'em Wallabies bleed, mate, watch 'em Wallabies bleed!” :::
And yes, I know that it’s an Aussie song – that’s the point!
There are the Maori Rastas
The things you come across doing random, bored searches around the web.
Martin