Marijuana Law Loophole?

This is for US Law. I was just wondering if there may be a way to sell pot legally. Of course, it’s illegal to buy and sell pot, but would it be illegal to sell say, imported marijuana SMOKE? Like an oxygen tank imported from amsterdam containing marijuana smoke. Would that be illegal?

Forget it. As soon as you find a loophole, the Feds will descend like avenging angels to make sure it’s closed. Look at what’s been going on with the whole medical marijuana issue in California.

No, it wouldn’t legal because it would probably contain the active chemical tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). If you check the statutes you’ll find that it is that chemical which is illegal, not just the plant itself.

Ohh, I was actually going to ask why people just don’t isolate THC and sell pills or something…

There actually are pharmacutical THC pills used for cancer patients. I have no idea if their affect is the same as smoking pot.
THC is what get’s you high, and is the agent that is illegal.

I don’t know what you’re sucking outta that tank, but I want some. :smiley:
Peace,
mangeorge

From what I’ve heard about these pills (Marinol), a lot of people don’t seem to like taking them to get high. Apparently it get’s people WAY to high for WAY to long. But this is just something I read somewhere in the bowels of erowid or layceaum. It was one stoners opinion. I’d also guess that there’s something illegal about importing just the THC. I persoanlly know how to extract the THC from pot and put it into pill form (for obvious reasons I won’t go into detail here, but I can tell you it’s a simple process that can be done by anybody with some pot and an hour to kill), and if you could legally posses and consume THC in pill form, I think it would be fairly mainstream by now (and illegal also, if it wasn’t to begin with. No officer, I don’t have any pot…my friend brought these back from Amsterdam. Okay son, move along then.)

From what I’ve heard, most AIDS and cancer patients don’t like taking Marinol for its medicinal purposes either – all the patients I talked to about it, who had gone from smoking marijuana to taking Marinol for their nausea, had eventually switched back to smoking marijuana, because it allowed them to control the dose so much better; with smoked marijuana, they could smoke just enough so that the nausea subsided, without getting stoned out of their minds. One dose of Marinol, on the other hand, made them absolutely loopy for hours and hours and hours. And since Marinol comes in pill form only, its effects aren’t felt for 30-45 minutes after ingestion, so by the time they realized the dose was a LOT more than they were used to, it was too late to do anything but sit back and wait it out. Ironic, since they were attempting to use THC to become MORE functional, not less.

I know that these posts are getting off-track, and that the OP has been answered, but this is a really interesting discussion for me, so I hope it stays open.

OK, something else a little off track, but still dealing with Pot and it’s legality.
I live in Oregon, and here we have a strange law. A doctor can give you a card, making it legal for you to smoke marijuana, but can’t give you the marijuana. And it’s illegal for you to buy it, or anyone to give or sell it to you, but you can legally own it. Now, I’m not for legalizing drugs, or anything like that, but in order to legally own pot, you have to get it illegally? What the hell??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Until we manage to get the federal government to decriminalize pot, any “medical use” laws passed by states will be nothing but empty gestures, as the federal laws take precedence over the state.

California’s law (Prop 215) is about the same as whatever Oregon has - a doctor can come just short of prescribing it, but you’re on your own to procure it.

Never mind more people die from drunk drivers than stoned drivers.

So, is this why they call this place “straight dope?” :smiley:

There used to be an act (I think it was called the Marijuana Stamp Act) that said you could have pot, but only if you got a license to do so. But, to get the licence, you had to posses the pot first. I believe it was repealed in the 70’s by the Supreme Court for being one of those unconstitutional paradox thingys.

Anyway, if it was 1970, and you had friends in the government I suppose it would be possible to legally score some dope by getting this license. Not any more though.

I’ve heard:

  • Marinol is also less useful than smoke for treating nausea because it’s hard to keep pills down while you’re throwing up.
  • Marinol only contains THC, but some of the other chemicals in marijuana smoke are active, so smoke has a slightly different effect.

Oh yeah, that first point – about it being very hard to take pills for nausea when you keep throwing them up – was the other main complaint the Marinol users I talked to had. When I asked if they would prefer a Marinol suppository (since many anti-nausea medications do come in suppository form, like promethazine or Compazine) most of them said they’d much rather just go back to regular marijuana. Can’t say I blame them too much. :slight_smile:

As for the second point, they did say that too – that Marinol “felt” different from marijuana – but from what I’ve read it doesn’t appear to be attributable to a real chemical difference. A double-blind study [1] revealed that marijuana users were unable to tell the difference between brownies or cigarettes containing either whole marijuana plants or pure delta-nine THC, Marinol’s active ingredient (aka dronabinol). So the difference in “feel” reported may be attributable to the dose differences, the different route of administration (oral vs. inhaled – the study compared d9THC brownies to marijuana brownies and d9THC cigarettes to marijuana cigarettes, but not d9THC brownies to marijuana cigarettes or marijuana brownies to d9THC cigarettes), and maybe the patients’ belief that Marinol SHOULD feel somewhat different from smoked marijuana, but evidently not because of the other substances in marijuana.

[1] Cite: Wachtel SR, ElSohly MA, Ross SA, Ambre J, De Wit H. Comparison of the subjective effects of Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol and marijuana in humans. Psychopharmacology (Berl) 2002;161(4):331-9

As I understand the Oregon law, it’s legal for someone with one of those cards to own up to 7 marijuana plants, but only 4 can be adult plants. In other words, they want you to grow your own dope.

Of course, it’s still illegal under federal law to own mj plants.

Yeah, I know the Feds are against it, but, and someone tell me why I’m wrong, shouldn’t this be a states right issue? I mean, I always figured that transporting drugs across state lines would be under Federal jurisdiction, but within a state, since the Constitution clearly states that what powers aren’t specifically given to the Federal government goes to the states, then what part of the constitution does the Federal government use to claim supreme authority on this issue?

PetW, in order to make the smoke you would need to have the pot, right? You know what they say, possession is 9 tenths of the law.

Yes, but handy, his idea (since factually debunked) was to produce the smoke where possession of marijuana was legal or at least decriminalized. Do try to keep up.

Many years ago I read about a guy who got busted while trying to get accross the Mexican border into the U.S. with scuba tanks full of marijuana smoke. I doubt that such a loop-hole has ever existed.