Hair tests can go back for as long as you have hair. Someone with hair down to their waist might have years’ worth of incriminating evidence; someone with a crewcut might have just a few weeks or less. That said, I’ve never heard of a hair test actually being done—just that they were theoretically possible—so you’re probably safe there. Maybe they’re too expensive to do or something.
Hair tests will only be run into in security-sensitive positions, government work, the armed services, Etc. THey’re too expensive to be used everyday.
Piss tests don’t “go back” at all. They just go through what your kidney and liver process and pick up contaminants(FYI, pot is also not processed in the liver, it’s stored in fatty tissues).
Pot, for a regular user is still evident after about 30 days, an occasional user, say 2 weeks, a rare user, probably less. Crank and other methamphetamines is about 72 hours, same for cocaine. Acid and other hallucinogens are much shorter lived(mainly because they’re really poisonous, that’s what makes you hallucinate). ETOH(alcohol) is in the blood for approximately 24 hrs.
A little knowledge can go a long way. When I was a pot smoker(I only did pot and shrooms), I never failed a test. Arm yourselves with info, and don’t be ignorant about your rights when it comes to testing.
-Sam
PRO: I think that it makes my posts more interesting. What do you think of this one?
( I’m kidding )
CON: as in -victed.
Everything in this world has some carcinogenic properties. A joint might hurt your lungs and invade your body with carcinogens, but so does the smog we pump out our tailpipes these days.
Also, the studies in which this were proclaimed are no doubt flawed or biased. There have been studies that say THC is broken down into estrogen for god’s sake, do you believe that? And Menthol smokes make you impotent? sheesh…
Take it all with a grain of salt, a FWIW kinda basis.
-Sam
Actually, I think all anorexics should be forced to smoke pot. Munchies are hell but at least they’d eat.
In over 10,000 years of use, marijuana has not been the direct cause of any deaths. (I got that from a Cypress Hill CD booklet. Don’t ask because I can’t remember which one.) Anyway, I believe that.
Pros: curing anorexics, creativity, ummm…increases social skills, marijuana is not, I repeat, is not physically addictive. It’s only addictive if you think it is.
Cons: it’s gotten really expensive these days, the bags have gotten much smaller these days, your memory does go all to hell but that doesn’t make you a stupid person.
Overall, pot is not a really bad thing. And I never considered it to be a “gateway” drug. And the smokers I know don’t think of it as that either. If people want to smoke crack they will. They can’t blame pot. I smoked pot steadily for quite some time but I never did anything like heroin or anything. Okay, I’m done now. And remember: A friend with weed is a friend indeed.
Re: carinogenic properties
From what I have read, marijuana is indeed carcinogenic, as is anything that you set on fire and inhale the smoke of. It is no more inherently carcinogenic than tobacco, and in fact I have read that it is less so by objective lab analysis, due to lower levels of tar and such. However, in actual use, the carcinogenic effect of a single smoke of mj versus tobacco is usually higher proportionally, not because of any quality of the substance itself but due to the common trait of tokers “holding it in” in a way that tobacco smokers do not. That being said, one would have to point out (and I believe someone already did) that few pot smokers smoke a pack or two of joints per day, either, so the net carcinogenic effect would still be significantly less than for a typical cigarette smoker.
I’m surprised by the remark that a toker is still at greatly increased risk of lung cancer even thirty years after quitting. I’ve read in many articles/brochures/etc about quitting cigarettes that in the first year after quitting, your currently elevated cancer risk goes down by 15% or some such number, and continues to decrease the longer you don’t smoke, until after seven years (or something similar) your risk is no greater than if you had never smoked, due to your body’s routine replacement of tissue/cells. (I’m pulling this from memory so I doubt these numbers are exactly right - surely some of our recent quitters have read the same things and may recall the specifics. I don’t smoke, so I had no real reason to retain the details.) I’ve never seen any evidence that there’s some nasty super-killer-element in pot that puts it light-years away from tobacco in terms of cancer risk, so I’m curious about this statement. Got a reference?
Finally, my mild-mannered .02 - I’ve been to plenty of gatherings where there was lots of drinking, and lots of personal and public ugliness before the night was over. I’ve also been to gatherings where the drinking was minimal and smoking plentiful, and have never seen so much as a hint of ugliness emerge - just goofy mellowness and heavy snacking. Ever hear of someone getting stoned and beating the hell out of their girlfriend or trashing their neighbor’s car? Me neither.
As for “turns you into a moron” - :rolleyes:
Well, though I support legalization, i don’t partake myself, with the main reason being that I already exhibit many of the side-effects of a marijuana high, and it would exacerbate some of my already problematic personality traits. I have AWFUL short-term memory, often forgetting what I am doing while I am doing it, I have ZERO motivation, often sitting for hours doing nothing productive while numerous responsibilities go undone (like what i am doing here!). I am constantly hungry, and it’s a real effort for me to not eat. I’m not fat, but it takes effort to keep mydelf uner 200 pounds. I’m massively impulsive, and have serious attention problems. I can only imagine that pot usage would only make this worse…
That having been said, if you do have an active, ambitious, go-gettr type personality, there is no reason why an occasional joint or bongload would do you any real harm. I’m all for people being able to enjoy a little now and then. Legalize the stuff, it’s definately safer than alcohol.
IIRC, the NAACP and ACLU have pending suits about hair tests. People with dark hair are substantially more likely to have a false-positive than people with light hair.
Uh…GaWD? Have you read anything about the corelation between marijuana use and short term memory loss…or did you just FORGET you read that?
Infrequent recreational use is one thing…but do you want a doctor or say an Airline pilot ((in your case your LAWYER))…using at ALL?
Choice as an adult? Would you smoke in front of your kids? Would you want your kids to blow a bone? Everyone has expermented with the stuff…Christ,Bill Clinton admitted it.There comes a time in your life when you ,IMHO, give that crap up,move on to raising a family.I think you’ll see that someday…((I Hope))
Would someone please hold down this RichG7 person while I blow bong hits at him?
What? You think I never tried it? Jeez! All I’m saying is “I grew out of” that phase in my life.
Why don’t we just kick his ass?
First off, I’ve been clean for over a year my goat-feltching friend.
Secondly, I think we’ve all admitted that there is a short term memory loss involved with getting high, or did you forget you read that?
Thirdly, I care less if a lawyer, pilot, blah, blah, etc. smokes the shit, as long as they’re not high when they’re on the friggin job!
Last but not least, I also don’t care if a parent CHOOSES to get high occasionally. Do I condone it in front of their children? of course not moron.
I suppose you’d rather the parent get drunk and abuse his kids.
Oh, also…you seem so anti-pot, and then you say that “everyone’s done it man, but they got over it, even Bill Clinton”. WTF is that supposed to mean?
:wally
-Sam
I know plenty of people in their 50’s 60’s even 80-'s who are not “over it”. Many are productive members of society.
Clean…for a whole year? ::golfclap::
Oh no…ANOTHER one that wants to kick my ass…get in line,pal.Or should I say DO a line?
Well, that was a joke. Since you apparently have no sense of humor, I’ll go the other way.
No one here denied the effect on STM. Or do you have a special browser that allows you to see posts that I can’t?
Holy Cow, good thing no one in these professions drinks alcohol either. Because we all know what alcohol can do do someone. I rest easy knowing that everyone who could have any bearing on my life is straight as an arrow.
In all seriousness, as long as they are not baked while performing their job, then let 'em smoke up all they want. Yes, that would also apply to my surgeon, my lawyer, or any random pilot of a plane I’m on.
Yes. Tough concept for you to grasp?
No.
Not at age 10, but at age 18 or 21 I wouldn’t have a problem with it.
Of course, everyone knows that smoking weed and raising a successful and loving family are mutually exclusive. What was I thinking???
Well, I wouldn’t have sex in front of my children EITHER, but that doesn’t mean it’s inherently wrong.
I am an infrequent toker, in fact, I started a related thread recently that died out rather quickly (I guess all the real dopers were to stoned to post). I know several long-term users who lead very productive lives and are in tip-top shape, they just keep their usage to their off time and use it as a relaxing agent, much like most of the world uses alcohol. Marijuana has a gotten a bad rap in the 20th century (William Randolph Hearst was a big detractor and used his media empire to spread lies about it during for decades), but scientific studies have shown recently that marijuana is not the evil demon weed that the Ma and Pa Middle-America believe it to be.
Check out 420.com for a good source of Mary Jane fun.
BwaHaHaHa!
Bite me feltcherino! :wally
-Sam
Oh, don’t be such an ass, Rich. And stop pretending that you’re better than GaWd. Maybe a year isn’t that long but even if he’s only been clean for a day, it’s no business of yours to belittle that. As for you “growing out” of the pot stage, good for you. ::golfclap:: Pat you on the back because you are a model human being.
How do you do a line of marijuana?