Oh boy. ::sighs:: Talk about a can 'o worms. Back to the op.If you’d reread it AND my first post,you’d realize all I was trying to convey was MY opinion.She asked what people thought…I told her. As you can plainly see…I don’t condone it.In a nutshell…it’s illegal…but so is oral sex in some states.I’m the parent of a 15 year old,It scares the hell out of me when I think of him even trying it.Yeah,I know…everyone will say “I’ve tried it,I turned out ok”.That’s not the point.The funny thing with drug/marijuana/alcohol use…it can go either way.You may wind up like I did…tried it…didn’t like it.BUT you could wind up an abuser.I don’t want him to even ROLL those dice.
I apologize to all parties if any offense was taken.I think I’ll go talk to my kids about drugs…alcohol…marijuana…STD’s…cigarettes.Man,where do I start?
Signed,
A worried parent
I understand where you’re coming from, and you certainly have some very real concerns. You ask where to start? A good way would be to tell him the above. Make sure he knows that you tried it and didn’t like it. Don’t get hysterical about the evils of marijuana. Above all, don’t lie to him. Make sure you precede opinions with “I think…”. Make it clear that you are worried about its effects on him, and try to insinuate (without necessarily saying) that he wouldn’t be punished for trying it.
This way, when he tries it, he’s far more likely to tell you about it, and talk it over with you. This could be: “Hey dad, I smoked up the other night, and you’re right, it’s pretty lame/nasty/gross.” Or: “Hey dad, I tried dope last weekend, and didn’t see what all the fuss was about.” It could be: “I tried it, and it was pretty cool. I don’t see why you’re so against it”, which would be the cue for the lecture about responsibility and moderation (and the reminder about work-related drug tests). It could even be “Dude! I tried dope, and it’s great!”, which is when you sigh and say, “Ok, look. Don’t use it too often, don’t let it hurt school or work, and please don’t smoke up in the house. Okay?” Which would at least be better than him thinking “dude! …” and not telling you.
Do you trust your son to make the right choice?
Even if it’s not the choice you want him to make?
Oh boy. ::sighs:: Talk about a can 'o worms. Back to the op.If you’d reread it AND my first post,you’d realize all I was trying to convey was MY opinion.She asked what people thought…I told her. As you can plainly see…I don’t condone it.In a nutshell…it’s illegal…but so is oral sex in some states.I’m the parent of a 15 year old,It scares the hell out of me when I think of him even trying it.Yeah,I know…everyone will say “I’ve tried it,I turned out ok”.That’s not the point.The funny thing with drug/marijuana/alcohol use…it can go either way.You may wind up like I did…tried it…didn’t like it.BUT you could wind up an abuser.I don’t want him to even ROLL those dice.
I apologize to all parties if any offense was taken.I think I’ll go talk to my kids about drugs…alcohol…marijuana…STD’s…cigarettes.Man,where do I start?
Signed,
A worried parent
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Rich, Be concerned, but don’t be a prick. I smoked for a number of years and was never addicted to it. I finally got tired of it and quit.
My mom was especially understanding when it came to pot use. She’d rather have us smoke weed than turn into raging alcoholics. We had a great relationship, and I even came to her after I started smoking pot and told her.
Her only wish was that I never use hard drugs, or pot to an excess, and I never truly did. If you wish to have this type of relationship, be open, kind, understanding, and truthful with them.
-Sam
P.S.- no “offense” was taken, but your comments were such BS blanket statements, that something had to be said from the side of fact.
SMOKING pot makes me toss my cookies. Does eating it give you a different kind of high? Less intense or something?
Really? I thought it was supposed to quell nausea, not cause it.
It can be more intense. But, it creeps up on you more. It could be the smoke that’s making you throw up. Try eating a small ammount sometime, see if that works. Slowly build up to larger ammounts.
Depends on how much you eat/how strong it is. I had the most intense trip of my life off of eating MJ brownies. And I am no lightweight when it comes to hallucinogenics.
But these brownies took the cake. I was zooted.
Thanks everyone for your replies and advice… what happens when you hallucinate? Sounds scary! I didn’t get that high, I got giggly and stuff, but nothing really strange happened. I did have the memory loss, which continued until Monday after I had smoked Sunday morning. I didn’t really connect it with the pot, I thought I hadn’t gotten enough sleep or something, but now I see! So this has been helpful! I can’t wait to try some brownies, haha!
Also, to the guy who said grow up: Sheesh! I waited until I was 34, how much more grown up do I have to be???
Thanks again!
A girl
One additional disadvantage that no one has mentioned is that it is absolutely impossible to look sexy whilst sucking down pot smoke. Bong, joint, hookah, whatever, you’re still going to look awkward while sucking on it. Because of this, pot should be either ingested orally or avoided all together. I’ve made the latter choice, but to each his own.
Other disadvantages are, well, insignificant in comparison.
So much for toking and getting mellow.
Moderator’s Notes: Everybody, just cool it right now. Don’t make me send you to your rooms. GaWd, this notice is especially for you. It appears to me that you posted the first abusive remarks. And your remarks in another thread today were the deciding factor in moving it to the pit.
It has been my general experience that females are more likely than males to have unimpressive experiences the first time they try pot. I have also noticed that many females complain of nausea when they smoked pot the first few times (which usually turns them right off of it). I would be interested in seeing a study done of the different ways in which marijuana affects males and females. I bet there’s something going on there, but that just through my own casual observences. I would be willing to be part of the test group, so if anyone wants to pick up this cause in the name of science, let me know and I’ll provide the Pink Floyd CD’s and munchies.
I’m going to say this one more time. Marijuana is not physically addictive. My therapist gave me a few books on different drugs and I read every word written about pot in those books, just for the knowledge of what I was putting in my body. I don’t have the book on hand but I’m sure I can find a site on the internet somewhere that will corroborate this statement, if anyone wants one. Once again, pot is only addictive if you think it is.
I’ve never hallucinated with pot, with the exception of Northern Lights, strong hash, and weed laced with PCP. The hallucinating is like light spatial distorions, dreamyness, distorted time perception, bright colors and objects wavering.
I smoke near every day and have found the best way to eliminate sluggishness (mental and physical) is exercise (cardio).
I’ve eaten all kinds of weeded brownies and never really got much of an effect outta it. You get a light buzz that lasts somewhat longer. I prefer to smoke it–much better effect–IMHO as well as pot is a little expensive these days, and smoking it is the best way to conserve your stash. Besides when you eat it you stomach acids break down many of the chemicals (delta-9-THC included) and when the bud enters your intestinal tract the chemicals left get released inconsistantly. I prefer the shorter, stronger and more controlled buzz associated with smoking it.
Quite right . I’ve been smoking for 13years . Every now and then I don’t have any , none around/no money/couldn’t be arsed ( I did say I smoked fo 13years ) , and it’s never bothered me in the slightest .
Hey. There is nothing sexier then a cute girl and her 2 foot gravity bong. What are you saying here?
Oh, I gotcha. Somebody once told me he tried pot and the trees were talking to him and the sidewalk chased him and I thought that’s what it meant!
Also, the munchies thing is interesting, I always thought it was a hunger thing, but it’s more like just an urge to crunch, crunch, crunch on something!
A girl
I wouldn’t call it hallucination, exactly. It’s hard to put into words, but I think it’s more accurate to say altered perception. Specifically, the effect, as near as I can describe it, is of “compressed awareness.”
Normally, you know what’s going on at any given moment, and you have a good sense of the preceding few minutes, as well as an expectation of what is likely to happen in the future. When you’re stoned, all of this gets squeezed into a tighter time frame. Your short-term memory cutoff shrinks, so you have difficulty remembering things after a couple of minutes, and your sense of what is coming up likewise suffers, so stuff takes you more by surprise.
However, it’s not just about looking through a smaller, more restricted window; it’s as if all of that time gets compressed, so your experience is far more intense, less like a small window and more like a highly refracted lens. Clever material seems truly profound, funny stuff becomes absolutely hilarious, and if something bad happens, you get really, really bummed out.
Of course, another friend of mine described it this way: “It’s like you’re really dizzy, like you just got off a really spinny amusement park ride, except you’re really happy about it.”
So, no hallucinations. If you want to hallucinate, take shrooms or LSD.
Regarding the OP, the pros and cons: I’d just second what most everyone else has said. It’s possible to have a hangover, if you’re susceptible (most aren’t), and it’s also possible, especially with inexperienced smokers, to succumb to the munchies and overeat to the point of pain. It’s very difficult to have a health-endangering overdose; in general, it isn’t exactly good for you, but it’s nowhere near as bad as alcohol or tobacco. If you do it for a long time, you can become psychologically habituated, and it can get expensive. If you have an addictive personality or other behavioral disorder, you might use pot as a gateway to narcotics, but in my experience this doesn’t happen nearly as much as the scaremongers say it does.
Regarding the debates over long-term physiological effects (sterility, memory loss, etc.), the research is unclear, but seems to come down more on the “unproven” side. A lot of the really negative results, from the 1960’s, have been discredited; however, because of the hard-line anti-drug policy of the U.S. government, it’s been extraordinarily difficult for researchers to get funding for thorough, clinically rigorous studies in the past couple of decades. As a consequence, a lot of the medical claims are still up in the air, and will likely remain so for a while.
My position? Smoke 'em if you’ve got 'em – just be sensible about it. With a little care, you can avoid legal or other trouble. If you’re pregnant, you shouldn’t smoke (the research is unclear, but why take the risk?). Don’t smoke the night before something mentally challenging. If you’ve got a regular Mon-Fri job, you can safely smoke Friday and Saturday night without impacting your work performance. Take precautions; don’t drive, don’t operate heavy machinery, don’t engage in archery with flaming arrows. Until you’re experienced enough to cope with the effect, don’t go out in public; hang at home with friends, watch TV, listen to music. After you’ve got some experience, going out in public can be fun; you should start with events where you’ll be safely anonymous in a group, and won’t have to deal with people who know you and might notice the difference in your behavior. (I highly recommend the zoo.) I don’t have kids yet, but my wife and I expect to be honest with them, and give them the same sort of forthright guidance.
Just my two cents, for what it’s worth.
Actually Cervaise, if you get really skunky weed, you can hallucinate. I’ve smoked enough to know the difference. And I’ve definetley experienced shroom quality halucinations on weed. Same with E sometimes.
Somebody once lied to you. You can get intense trips like that from 'shrooms but not from pot. The marijuana trip varies for all people, I think. Marijuana is the slightest of slight hallucinogens so a lot of people may never experience the “trip” effect. Most often when someone describes hallucinations from smoking pot they are, in fact, simply describing the basics of being high. Wanna trip? Grab some 'cid. But I wouldn’t recommend doing any drugs until you know WHY they make you feel the way they do. Knowledge is power or something.
And, oldscratch, about the cute girl with the 2 foot gravity bong. I don’t generally smoke out of gravity bongs but I have a 4 man hookah that works quite nicely.
That’s it. Everyone over to Silver_Fire’s place. I got the weed, anyone want to bring snacks?