Marine Claims Saddam Capture Story Is A Lie.

The link

http://www.wokr13.tv/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=422B960A-26BA-4891-9E60-21C8818788D4

Basically, Saddam was not captured in a hole, but in a small suburban house. There was a sharp exchange of fire, & Saddam carried, & fired a weapon himself.

Several Iraqis were killed, as was a Marine.

The ex-Marine is currently in Lebanon, & is of Lebanese descent. He seems to be discharged, though under what circumstances is unclear.
He was initially quoted in a Saudi newspaper.

Truth? Lie? The significance of this appearing in a Saudi paper, when censorship there is so common?

If necessary, move this to Great Debates, please.

False. I think that by now there’d be songs written about the brave Sudanese-American Marine killed by that bastard Saddam. Everyone would know his name and the Iraqis would know the names of their dead too. It was a world-shaking event.

It was a world-shaking event, that took place in the middle of the night.

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I’d bet what the marine is saying is true. What could be better propaganda than having the once mighty dictator hiding like a coward in a hole from soliders?

Frankly, I didn’t buy it when the story first broke. Saddam had a LOT of supporters and a LOT of resources, and didn’t just TALK about about being a pseudo bad ass, he was actually shot in a coup attempt this whole spider hole business just doesn’t wash.

Given that he was caught by the Army and not the Marine Corps I’m comfortable calling bullshit on this one.

Total fucking horseshit.

This quote puzzles me though - “Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam’s capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well,” Abou Rabeh said."

I’ve not seen any film of Saddam’s capture. Does such a film exist? Yes, film of the inside of the spider hole was released but that’s all I remember seeing and while it didn’t appear to be a well, so what if it was. How does that change anything?

So Cpl. Hassoun has a soul mate. Color me unimpressed.

Oh, after seeing the fabrication of things like that “Jessica <whats-her-name” story, the Abu Ghraib stuff, I could EASILY see the military concocting a story that diminished Saddam in his capture, instead of presenting him as a “martyr” who went down fighting.

I’m just saying I could believe it.

Now, it would suprise me that they were able to cover it up for so long. And just because I could believe it doesn’t mean its true.

It doesn’t look like the major news sources are really picking up on it yet, but it will be interesting when/if they do.

It should be easy to disprove. Check the names of the dead Marines for the days in question and see if any of them sound Sudanese.

The odd thing (OK, one of many odd things) about this story, is it’s the wrong way around.

I could imagine some PR hack after Saddam’s capture going …

What on earth would be anyone’s motivation in faking this story the wrong way around?

To make Saddam less popular, by making him appear to be a personal coward. That might cause some of his less faithful supporters to drop him like a bad habit.

Your way sound like you’d be promoting a sitcom.

It’s a standard disinformation campaign. This story differs in several significant ways from the actual story of Saddam’s capture that was reported by the overseas press at the time. First of all, the Kurds actually captured him. No US forces involved at all until the fake capture. No mention of the Kurd’s press release announcing Saddam’s capture the day before the US “captured” him, etc. etc.

This is quite typical for the politicos involved. The best way to discredit the truth is to come up with a similar, but easily dismissible, story. That taints the real one. It worked really well in covering up the Iran hostage deal.

Yes, it was all staged. Just not this way.

This is the single mosr unclear post that has ever turned up in any Thread that I have started on this or any other Board. What side of the blasted argument are you on, dammit?!? :mad: :mad:

I’ve just got to respond to this. I was in the military, though not in combat. I now work fairly extensively with various DoD entities. The one thread of human conduct that runs through ALL of these organizations is that people like to talk. If such a story was concocted, we would already have heard stories all over the place. It is simply impossible to keep something like this a secret for very long.

[/hijack] This also applies to the TWA 800 “shoot down” UFOs and any other “conspiracy” you’d care to name. Complex cover ups unravel rapidly. Plus, don’t you think the “liberal” media would be all over this like stink? [hijack]