Ding! We have a winner!
Common sense and guts are in very short supply in Bezerkly.
Who said it took any political courage to do what the Pubbies in Congress wanted to do? I was talking about the protesters. I couldn’t care less whether that particular earmark gets sent to Berkeley. It was probably a stupid idea in the first place. That it took some nutty protesters to put it on the radar is of no consequence to me.
Slight nitpick there, captain. Earmarks aren’t all bad; they pay for necessary, sometimes essential things at least SOME of the time that end up saving LOADS more money down the road.
/nitpick.
I’m pretty sure they will, given half the chance.
And I don’t much care if the city council of East Birkenstock, Vermont, indicts Cheney for war crimes, it is too trivial an incident to rate attention. I only ask to what end this pissy little contretemps is exaggerated, whose interests are served?
Eh. If they don’t want people to pick up on their use of violence to protest, then they should protest peacefully. I remember the days of non-violent protest when people would lay down and make the cops remove them. Now the cops are, apparently, in cahoots with the protesters and they feel emboldened to block otherwise peaceful citizens from going about their business. They get no sympathy from me, even if someone wants to blow it out of proportion.
Yeah, about all that violence? I missed that part. Ambulances carrying away the victims, that sort of thing? Friend Tamerlane, an eyewitness, didn’t seem to notice any blood flowing in the streets. Advise.
Wait, there it is, right there in the cite. Brutal.
Though I’m sure your sermon will do me good in the long run and in ways I cannot now understand, would it be possible in the future for you to just say what you mean if only for the benefit of a thick headed dolt like me? No one has expressed more disdain for lawmakers than I have, so I’d like to know when I agree with you. People used to complain frequently that I was too “cryptic”. I know it’s cute on you because yours are witty and all that — meaning you usually don’t go against the crowd. If your drive-bys supported, say, Mr. Moto’s views or Bricker’s views, they would be less tolerated. At any rate, if you want to agree with me from time to time with just plain talk, I promise not to tell anyone.
elucidator: if you wish to defend the protests, why don’t you fucking man up and say it as opposed to contributing another half-dozen of your pissy passive-aggressive witticisms?
Violence doesn’t always imply blood. The protesters were lucky that the people trying to pass didn’t push harder-- maybe there would have been blood. If someone tried to forcibly keep me from my place of business, I wouldn’t hesitate to slug them. If that drew blood, then it would be their fault, not mine. At any rate, some of us are able to deplore Bush’s policies in Iraq and the tactics used by these protesters. You seem unable to do that. I really don’t understand why.
Most likely the marine recruiters instructed any DEPs they had to ignore, or just walk away from the protesters, but not to do more than that. (DEP=Delayed Entry Program enlistee). The marines themselves were probably told not to do anything, as I said above. Of course if one of the protesters put their hands one one of the marines and got their head handed to them, I would have laughed. But I’m betting the protesters knew that the marines wouldn’t molest them.
I’ve often wondered why a lot of people can’t do that. Those recruiters already have a crummy job, but they aren’t performing Jedi mind tricks on people. Let 'em alone. Anyone with a brain cell would know they (the marines) can’t change the policies of the current administration. Its not like Sergeant Jarhead is going to call the White House and ask them to kindly withdraw all of the troops. Why don’t these protesters go to their local elected officials place of business and protest? Is it just stupidity, or lack of the guts to do it? They probably fear arrest if they did that, which makes them even more loathsome.
If they want to protest fine, but blocking the entrance and not letting people go in to conduct their own business?. The cops not doing anything about it? Just for that I hope they do lose their federal money. When protesters piled up in front of the Pentagon back when I worked there, the cops hauled them off in paddywagons for blocking the entrance and stopping people from entering.
hahahahah berkeley is so fucked. I really want one of those signs in the picture that says “Join the Marines. Travel to exotic lands. Meet unusual and exciting people. AND THEN KILL THEM” I think it would look quite smashing in my apartment in a glossy baroque frame.
I grew up in Berkeley and live next door in El Cerrito. My folks and my uncle and aunt still live there. We were talking about this last night and you could hear the eyeballs rolling.
It’s not all of Berkeley. It’s a couple of dopes on the city council and some protestors from Code Pink, which amusingly enough is located in the small adjoining city of Albany, not Berkeley.
For the record, I think they’re a bunch of nimrods - Code Pink should certainly be free to protest peacefully just like anyone else. Giving them a special parking space in front of the Marine recruiting office and whatever other perks? Gimme a break. Making some official city policy that the Marines are unwelcome? Sheesh.
Some congresscritters getting their shorts in a knot over it? Oh wow, “Freedom Toast Part 2”.
Well, gee, John, you might want to take care, some of those Berzerklyites have advanced training in tai chi and aikdo, might be a formidable match even for a bare-knuckle bruiser like yourself…
And, point of fact, I haven’t expressed any opinion about the tactics used by the protestors, been too busy listening to people tell my what my opnion is and give me shit me for it. But they’re pretty standard tactics, no? Time honored? And the level of violence turns out to be no more than a touch football game. A *girl’s * touch football game.
So whats to deplore? Compared to an unjust and dishonorable war? Kinda comes down to proportion, huh, John?
I do it to annoy assholes.
Does it work?
Who knows?
Gotcha. You’re a lazy troll.
Any Commandant who said that publicly would and should be immediately dismissed from his post. For a military officer to criticize the enacted policy of Congress violates the fundamental precept that military authority is entirely subservient to civilian authority. It’s one thing (in fact, it’s an obligation) for an officer to provide honest feedback on the effects of a policy through his chain of command. But when the men with tanks start to argue that they know better than the elected leadership. . . welcome to the junta.