Martin O'Malley for President thread

That’s more of draw than a victory, though, right? The Seattle Times is saying ‘The rejection of GW Bush, and the GW Bush Legacy, was clear in this election’. Or am I reading it wrong?

Please take any further discussion of political semantics to another thread. Thanks!

O’Malley wants more than six debates with his Dem rivals: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/250372-omalley-dems-tilting-race-toward-hillary-clinton

Sanders too. Really, I think six debates is enough, but the DNC does seem to be protecting Clinton here. It’s almost as if they don’t want an Obama to interfere with the plan this time.

The irony is that Obama and his aides have often said that a long, hard-fought primary campaign in 2008 honed his skills and made him a better candidate for the general election.

That’s important for an inexperienced candidate. The Democrats are trying to deny O’Malley and Sanders that opportunity.

I don’t think it’s funny at all. Perhaps you would be unable to control your laughter while black youth from Park Heights to Belair-Edison are caged on Eager Street.

As for his victories, perhaps it was due to techniques such as strategically placing signs that read simply “Vote for the Democrats” in the weed carpeted median strips of the pothole-ridden thoroughfares of troubled districts.

Harrison Hickman. Doesn’t sound like a guy who’s been pounding the pavement outside Lexington Market. I’ll bet money right now omalley doesn’t crack 33% come primary.

Which primary? The Iowa caucuses? The New Hampshire primary? I may take that bet.

Neither.

Which, then?

An interesting Daily Beast piece on O’Malley: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/06/you-have-martin-o-malley-all-wrong.html

Hey, EH, how about posting a few snippets, either quotes or summaries, that help illustrate your attraction to him, not just another link? This approach does not really help advance the Fight all that much. Thanks.

:: shrugs ::

Lots of Dopers post links. If I read something I think others might find interesting, so do I. You can click on a link and read a bit, if you like; if you don’t want to, you don’t have to. I’m not into spoon-feeding. When I feel moved to comment, I will.

How about at least a hint about *what *you found interesting?

It seems to be taking the position that the ends justified the means, and that black folk weren’t mad about O’Malley’s police force when they were making Baltimore livable again.

Something tells me the Daily Beast would not be making the same excuses for Giuliani or other mayors who took on crime using tough tactics.

Beyond that, it seems to me that most of these policing strategies never worked. Stop-and-frisk primarily wastes police resources on searching unarmed black men. CRASH primarily wasted Los Angeles’ money on settling lawsuits. How much did whatever O’Malley was doing improve things over and above the general downturn in crime of the late 1990s?

Well, something worked, because a four times greater reduction in crime than the national average happens for a reason. That is what you’d call statistically significant.

What would help is for government officials who actually cared about educating voters about the reality of government to explain things to their constituents. The government is not a scalpel, it’s a sledgehammer. If you want to reduce crime, you’re going to have collateral damage. You have to choose between the collateral damage of gang violence and the collateral damage of tough policing tactics. Voters in crime ridden areas seem to want what can’t ever exist: a police force that is tough on criminals with precision, while serving the innocent with a smile.

Baltimore had a lot more crime to begin with, so you’d expect to see a more dramatic reduction. Anyway, besides increasing access to drug treatment, it doesn’t look like O’Malley did much differently than Giuliani, whose policing methods were lauded at the time but now appear to have been statistically insignificant.

Then why didn’t that crime drop occur in the 90s under O’Malley’s predecessor? NYC also had a more significant crime drop than the country as a whole under Giuliani.

So something made crime drop at higher rates under specific administrations where it failed to drop as significantly under others.

Crime decreased in Baltimore for the same reason it decreased elsewhere, mass incarceration. The economic, academic, and political subjugation of Baltimoreans increased during Omalley’s reign.

O’Malley supporter you have 'splainin to do on many fronts, but one I see you shying away from is the education issue. Would you send your kids to Baltimore schools after a decade of Marty Boy? I’d rather send them to William Jennings Bryan for Biology, or Alabama.

The stage in that photo is awfully white.

Oh, he’s a bigot. At least, a mix of desperate and reckless with his constituents given power. Worrying sign.

And he had the police lie about assault statistics?

OK, not wasting any more time on this one, I guess. Pity. Well, who else we got?

I don’t see a path to the nomination for someone who embodies what’s wrong with “moderate” white Democrats.

I don’t think he’s a bigot, or at least no more than Bill Clinton is (or Charles Ramsay or Leonard Hamm). He is insensitive to the consequences of bad policing and willing to play with people’s lives for political gain. Or, at least he was.

Whether he has changed or not is another question. I look forward to seeing if he even claims to have changed.