Martin/Zimmerman: humble opinions and speculation thread

[emeraldia]

@enomaj

Susan Simpson @ viewfromll2.com.

Susan Simpson
on July 17, 2012 at 10:34 am said:
Ricky, the legal side of the case is only one aspect of the discussion. I have no disagreement with you on the fact that this will not be an easy case to prosecute — it is entirely possible that Zimmerman will be acquitted."

Zimmerman Open Thread – 7/16/12

Kimmy Gibbler has argued on these boards that Zimmerman had not established justification for use of deadly force but that was way back when.

@Kimmy_Gibbler

The prosecution will need to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt and do not have much evidence to rebut Zimmerman’s allegation of self-defense. Even if the jury rejects Z’s testimony as self-serving, you can’t sustain a conviction where a self-serving, but prima facie, affirmative defense goes unrebutted. That is far too short of BRD. Thompson v. State, 552 So. 2d 264 (Fla. Dist. Ct. App. 1989).

If there are any lawyers on justicequest.com, they definitely believe the state has a strong case. Haven’t lurked long enough to see if there are.

That’s 3 strikes by my count…

But it was emeraldia who claimed a consensus first. Just sayin. Bricker asked about lawyers who disagreed with him. ywtf provided the leatherman cite. And emeraldia claimed a consensus that lawyers thought the case was weak in his post calling leatherman a crackpot. 4 lawyers is not a consensus.

4 keen legal minds who, after a prudent, unemotional analysis, articulated that the case against Zimmerman is not strong vs.
a delirious old codger… is consensus.

And you just helped add 2 more to the former. So now it’s 6. And I’ll add another 5:

Arnold S. Trebach
http://spectator.org/blog/2012/07/14/the-zimmerman-judge-must-withd

William A. Jacobson

With release of molestation tape, Zimmerman case moves further towards injustice

“I still don’t see any evidence yet of the elements of second-degree murder,” said Miami defense attorney John Priovolos, a former prosecutor.

The new information “tends to support what Zimmerman is saying, that he was being assaulted,” said former Miami-Dade prosecutor David Waksman.

“This case was never a second-degree murder case,” said longtime Miami defense lawyer Jeffrey Weiner. “If anything, it was an over-reaction in a self-defense situation.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/19/2806555/evidence-against-zimmerman-lacking.html

There, 11 great legal minds vs. a madcap fruitbasket. Consensus.