Martin/Zimmerman: humble opinions and speculation thread

or worse, mentor them.

You could just as easily ask why was the homicide detective’s recommendation was overruled by the state attorneys office.

Zimmerman might have committed assault by pulling out his pistol and pointing it at Martin. Of course, if Martin had punched Zimmerman out when Zimmerman pointed a pistol at him, then Martin was an idiot. I’m not sure how they would prove that without finding Martin’s finger prints on the pistol or something.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-judge-expected-recuse/story?id=16162592#.T49doEVSQ04

This part got my attention.

I wonder if we will actually learn more about what evidence is available? Of course, if the prosecution doesn’t fight bond, then we might not learn squat.

well you could but he’s not a lawyer. Not really an apples to apples comparison. And he wasn’t overruled. It wasn’t up to him to rule on it in the first place.

Of course it was. Cops can make an arrest any time they suspect probable cause. And if you doubt me, you can read it straight from the Fl state attorneys office.

and why would an officer need to consult with the DA? because he’s not a lawyer and needed a legal opinion on the matter. If he arrested Zimmerman against the advice of the lawyers representing the department then he makes himself legally vulnerable.

The point is that there is no direct evidence contradicting Zimmerman’s account, and some supporting it. A lot of things might have happened, but the prosecutor has an uphill climb proving anything criminal did.

Assault in Florida is defined as:

So you have the same problems. You have to show Zimmerman’s actions are unlawful. Watching someone walking down the street isn’t unlawful. Getting out of a truck to see where someone ran off to isn’t unlawful. The prosecutor will need to articulate the unlawful act of Zimmerman, and show why that should have created a well-founded fear in Martin.

Bold assertions offered without substantiation.

Allow me to take a page from the pro-Zimmerman playbook:

Obviously, SA Wolfinger’s actions were politically motivated. This would be a difficult case to prosecute and he has a long record of playing it safe, especially when the the victim is poor and/or black. I’m sure his foremost concern was keeping the NRA and Magistrate Zimmerman happy.

The correct way to phrase it is: at point is that there is no direct evidence, we know about contradicting Zimmerman’s account.

We don’t anything about the forensic or medical evidence. We know it is there, but we don’t know the content. I will concede that unless Corey has a lot more than what she showed in the affidavit, she could be spending a lot of time and money getting Zimmerman acquitted.

I’m hoping Corey may have to reveal more about her evidence during the bond hearing Friday.

um what? As in WTH are you talking about? If the officer thought he had reason to arrest Zimmerman then why didn’t he? Seriously, WTH is your point?

He might try to keep the NRA happy, but I haven’t seen any data that he has any reason to humor Magistrate Zimmerman. I did some google searches on Robert Zimmerman and as far as I can tell, Robert Zimmerman is a nobody in Seminole county. If you have any data to the contrary, please post a link, so I can put it in my database.

April 20th.

From some indications, it may be that he’d prefer to remain in protective custody for a while. Of course, he may reconsider that if he knows that it will take a year or so to get to the trial.

Apparently, because the SA’s office wouldn’t sign off on it at that pint.

Is there any reason he has to post bond immediately if Judge Lester grants it? He could just wait to post bond when the security arrangements are made. As you say, Seminole county jail is the safest place for him. If they take him out of solitary and put him in the general population, then that could change real fast.

ftr, it was Wolfinger’s office, not Wolfinger himself.
He wrote a nasty little press release to that effect on 04/02

Sure, there’s always the chance of some big reveal piece of evidence that shows Zimmerman’s guilt. As time goes on, that possibility is becoming less and less likely.

I doubt you. And I read your link, which accurately states:

Please note the word ‘virtually’ in the quote you link to and the absence of it in your repetition. It’s true that in almost every case, police may make an arrest merely upon their determination of probable cause, but there are also well-known exceptions that require a warrant. The unfortunately-named Bumpus-Hooper covers himself by saying virtually. You cite his comment but don’t use his caveat.