Martin/Zimmerman: humble opinions and speculation thread

LYNCH mobs, JoelUpchurch. LYNCH mobs.

Are you really not able to see that word somehow?

Here it is once more: LYNCH

Can we stay on topic now please?

You keep calling us lynch mob members and we should start calling you a child rape apologist.

Both inaccurate and inflammatory. So, that’s fair right?

If you want to only talk about lynch mobs, then I suggest you start a thread about it.

In other news, O’Mara is looking like a liar along with his client. http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/17/2898502/jail-call-says-defense-attorney.html

Like I said before, it is not surprising the defense counsel is trying to get a do-over with a new judge. Now that all the jail calls are coming out, plausible deniability has gone out the window.

Boys and girls, this is why we should always tell the truth.

‘Lynch Mobs’

Macmillan Dictionary - lynch mob
1 - a group of people who lynch someone who has not been proved guilty of any crime
2 - any group of angry people who want to take action that is not officially allowed

Cambridge Dictionary - lynch mob
a group of people who want to attack someone who they think has committed a serious crime

The Free Dictionary - lynch mob

  1. lynch mob - a mob that kills a person for some presumed offense without legal authority
    (mob, rabble, rout) - a disorderly crowd of people

Common sense should suffice for now. Can call in the child psychologists later.

And I don’t think it’s wise to presume molestation, especially when the molester is 8-years old.

Except there is no evidence of coercion of any kind.

She said he “invited” her to his house. She said she accepted his invitation and drove over to his house.

She said he told her to lie down on his bed for a massage. She said she lied down on his bed for the massage.

She said she got uncomfortable by some of his actions and she chose to leave. She did not mention any retaliation or threats of retaliation on his part for her choice not to participate any further.

I think that is a bit of a distortion of my arguments. I’ve already made the case for my actual arguments above.

Generally, when a family has decided to confront another family member about a private, sensitive manner they don’t do it at Denny’s.

I agree that we will probably never have verifiable accounts of what exactly happened that night. But we have verifiable accounts of a lot of the most relevant details in the story.

Up until he doubled back and relentlessly battered Zimmerman, I accept the truth of your statement.

He pushed a guy in plain clothes he thought was attacking his friend- who later turned out to be an officer. I highly doubt that Zimmerman would have knowingly assaulted a police officer. Neither do the people who knew him best, like his ex, his wife, his friends, and family.

In fact, there is no evidence that Zimmerman ever did a single thing that could have seriously hurt another human being. He pushed someone who was manhandling his friend, and he slapped an ex- who had previously slapped him.

Upon examination, his “history of violent behavior” doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.

The truth is that we do not have to depend on Zimmerman’s account to reasonably believe he acted in self-defense. We have screams for help on a 911 tape. Zimmerman has a broken nose and a bloody head. A witness originally reported Martin on top of Zimmerman beating him up “MMA style”, “ground and pound”. Looks an awful lot like self-defense before Zimmerman even opens up his mouth.

I’m open to all but the nine last words of this paragraph. I think it’s clear that Trayvon was not an “innocent” bystander that night and I think it was his poor choices that were the deciding factor in his ultimate death.

First, he wasn’t self-appointed. Second, there is no canonization of him so much as defense from his demonization (by mobs of people, by the media, and then by Florida prosecutors.

Hannity! Zimmerman! One on [del]one[/del] two.

I have no idea if you belong to a lynch mob or a touring company of “Chicago”.

Who is this “us” and “we” you are referring to? Are you speaking for some secret/unknown society that I’m not aware of?

We are talking about lynch mobs because that is exactly the point of this side conversation and what it started over. Specifically the casualness and frequency that the term is levied at any of us who certain posters disagree with. Have you been paying attention to this entire conversation or just since the point you jumped in and tried to change the conversation to just the term mob?

And actually, you should be the one starting the new thread because you are the one desperately trying to change the subject to just the word mob for some reason, which has nothing to do with this discussion.

Ok, so which of these groups do I belong to specifically? Who am I attacking, what action am I advocating? Who have I killed? Am I being disorderly in some way?

In other words, your point please? Are you saying that this justifies insinuating that anyone in this thread that disagrees with your viewpoint is part of a lynch mob and therefore fits one of these categories?

“Norfolk Police Chief Sharon Chamberlin said at the news conference the juvenile suspect, who was not named, was charged with throwing a missile at a vehicle, a felony…”
I would hope it’s a felony. If its warhead had activated somebody could have really gotten hurt.

Why the incessant use of the term lynch mob when responding to those that you disagree with then? What are you trying to say about those that don’t hold the same viewpoint as you? Its quite a strong term, so you are clearly trying to make a strong point with its constant and repeated use.

Care to point me to the specific physical evidence, or witness statement that explicitly, not by inference or speculation, shows that he doubled back?

CMC fnord!

Ya might just want to bone up on the legal definition of “missile”.

CMC fnord!

Try to keep up. We have been discussing this since post #3935

Nope, just inference based on time and physics.

Airbeck is a lynching lyncher that intends to lynch Zimmerman.

As there’s very little evidence he murdered anyone, and plenty that he didn’t, and he’s not even been accused of rape, yes, he’d be ok in my community. Or, at least, I’d like to think he would. If your community disagrees, they are no better than lynch mobs.

Speaking of which, there have certainly been posters on this board who have openly stated that Zimmerman needs to be punished for his actions, no matter what the law states, so yes, there have been potential lynch mob members here. That is what first prompted me to comment on this case, despite having no real connection to it. Because ignoring the process of law simply because you dislike someone, or their actions, is dangerous to everyone, and if America does it, it influences the rest of the world. People calling for that are far more dangerous than Zimmerman could ever be.

Forget it, Jake, it’s 2012town.

This is against the rules of the SD. You can’t directly insult other posters like that.