Martin/Zimmerman: humble opinions and speculation thread

"…throwing punches “MMA (mixed martial arts) style.” is new.

So, you all equate detectable THC with being “on drugs”? You are going to be disappointed.

Are you sure? Looks more like Uncle Fester.

Really? Drugs being found in his blood doesn’t mean he was on drugs? Are you really arguing that?

Some more interesting stuff:

In a statement, Detective Christopher Serino of the Sanford police department said he played a recording of the calls to Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father.

“In the background I could clearly hear a male’s voice yelling either ‘help’ or ‘help me’ 14 times in an approximately 38-second time span,” Serino wrote.

"The voice was determined to be that of George Zimmerman, who was apparently yelling for help as he was being battered by Trayvon Martin.

“I asked Mr Martin if the voice calling for help was that of his son. Mr Martin, clearly emotionally impacted by the recording, quietly responded ‘No’.”

Well, there’s cocaine “on drugs” and there’s pot “on drugs”. And if someone is really high, then “on drugs” isn’t a bad description. Not sure it would lead someone to picking a fight, but that’s a different question.

I think the new mantra is going to be: If the nose is split, you must acquit! :smiley:

… and some photos:

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/17/11748829-george-zimmerman-photos-released-from-night-of-trayvon-martin-shooting?lite

Yes. THC is detectable for several weeks after it is ingested, and does not mean the person is under the influence. The prosecution knows this, as well as the defense; that is why they won’t make much from this non-evidence.

It was found in his blood, which typically only lasts a couple hours after ingestion.

A bunch of documents on scribd

Yet Serino still thought there was probable cause to make an arrest. And Corey apparently felt the same way.

According to this MJ advocacy site, a single use will be detectable in your blood 12 - 24 hours later. It will be detectable in the blood of regular users for up to seven days.

That contradicts the findings of the Yale School of Medicine, which says metabolites of THC can be detected up to a day and a half after ingestion.

Perhaps you have a more definituive cite?

33% of 12th graders have smoked weed in the last year.

21% are current users. Which means THC is all up and through their system.

Conclusion: We have a whole lot of thugs in this country that need to be shot.

Your cite says 5 hours for THC.

If it is in any way shape or form admissible the THC will be mentioned by the defense at trial. Will it bey a cornerstone or even a big part of their case? No. But anything that can possibly make Trayvon look like a bad guy will be brought up at trial, and each little thing has a chance of offending at least one juror.

The article Terr listed had some really interesting stuff to me (and I’ve not followed this case much recently so I’m not sure how much of it is genuinely new):

–You have a police officer on the scene who wrote that he thought Zimmerman’s nose looked like its broken. That would, in my opinion, makes Zimmerman’s medical records from his physician a lot more favorable to Zimmerman than I thought they might be 1-2 days ago. You have an ultra-reliable witness (a police officer) saying it looked like Zimmerman’s nose was broken that night, and a doctor diagnosing a broken nose the next day.

– Apparently the FBI identified the voice heard screaming for help in the tape and concluded it is impossible to say with certainty whose voice it was. You have Robert Zimmerman and the entire Zimmerman clan on record saying it sounds like their son. So to me, the voice screaming for help will do absolutely nothing for the prosecution at trial. You’ll have Martin’s family swearing it is his, and Zimmerman’s family swearing it is Zimmerman’s, and no scientific evidence to break the tie. Situations like that, where the evidence is inconclusive favor the defendant and not the State.

And you are certain the news reports know the difference?

A startling amount of ignorance being displayed in this thread about the effects of marijuana.

The claim of Zimmerman being correct on the phone is just plain moronic. Just keep on blaming the victim, that drug-crazed reefer addict.

Isn’t that in urine, though? In blood, it’s 5 hours. No?

I’ve no medical expertise but the chart in his cite on page two definitely says 5 hour detection time for THC in blood, serum, or plasma.

Shirley not. Why would a prosecutor in a high profile case be concerned with due diligence?