Also this one. http://mightygodking.com/2014/10/20/nerrrrrd-raaaaaaaaage/
Cool. I choose buildings that won’t topple over a month after they’re built, drugs that won’t cripple or kill me with unintended side effects and cars that have been extensively tested to not fail under unusual road conditions.
Enjoy your freedom.
If you have freedom and I mean REAL freedom than none of those things will be an issue or will be at a minimum to deal with.
Cap
Let’s face it, registration isn’t about controlling the bigger threats - being registered or not doesn’t make a damn bit of difference should a Hulk or Thor choose to bust loose. It’s about controlling the little guys with less power, just like the Mutant Registration act is (with the bonus of kinda co-opting them into the armed forces). I am against the draft, and I’m against racist population registration acts, and this is both.
The exact terms of the registration are never entirely clear.
I’m all for rules that say that only people acting as agents of the state should be using violence within the state, and only under carefully defined conditions. This means registration for anyone using superpowers as a vigilante, no question.
On the other hand, registering and restricting particular people just because they meet an arbitrary classification based on who they are, that’s just downright evil.
Tony Stark is a great poster-child for registration, because his only “superpower” is carrying around military-grade weaponry. I’m all for him being limited in the use his power. I’m also fine with Captain America wandering around unregistered, so long as he is willing to submit to civilian authority next time he recklessly throws that shield in public.
A lot could actually have been accomplished under existing laws.
Class action lawsuits, indictments against “Unknown Suspects.” RICO act indictments. Deep investigations of money trails.
Put enough FBI agents on the problem, and Spider-Man’s secret identity will be penetrated. No matter how much good he may have done, he’s broken hundreds and hundreds of laws, and is civilly liable for millions of dollars in damages.
Hell, in the comics run, weren’t they also inconsistent? I mean, depending on who was writing what book, one side would be all reasonable sweetness and light, and the other one would be a bunch of deluded, baby-eating fascists/anarchists.
Maybe I’ll just stick with voting for Street Poet Ray.
That’s pretty much where I come down. If you want to use your powers to be a hero, get a badge (or at least a metaphorical one). You don’t get to smash up half a city like one of those Family Guy chicken fights and then claim later you were just doing it for the greater good. Conversely, if you’re just going to mind your own business, no registration.
(I’ve just realized that I’ve inadvertently restated a scene from the Top Ten comic where all superheroes, mutants and other beings with special powers are made to live together in one city, but only those who join the police force are allowed to actually fight crime. Anyone else caught fighting a supervillain gets arrested for assault.)
I’m not sure what the objection to the Negative Zone prison is, though. If you’re locking up people who punch through walls like tissue paper on a daily basis, extraordinary measures are required.
I vote for “Fuck you, Marvel.” When’s the last time the headline comic event of the minute wasn’t about dragging the good guys through the mud and having them consider each other enemies?
…forget Cap or Stark, I’m on Oakminster’s team!!!
Who could be trusted with registration?
Why punish anyone before the crime?
If people can’t decide between the two can they settle on Iron Patriot?
The Negative Zone? The place where Annihilus lives? The guy that hates all life? The Living Death that Walks?
Sure, no problem there. A death sentence with no due process. The moment they put the prison there, that was the first thing I thought.
That’s how I fall out here, too; Stark is pretty much my spirit animal, but I’m more on Cap’s side on this one.
I think the objection was that they were just packing supers into it without a trial, or any plans for a trial.
I’m with Cap.
I don’t think there is any reason to register everyone with powers. Take the Blob; being able to become unmovable is not destructive in and of itself why do we need to track him. On the other hand there is Magneto but just knowing that someone can do whatever he wants with metal doesn’t help you prevent him from doing what he wants. Sure I’d want to know if i was living next to someone who could destroy the block but even them registering isn’t going to keep them from doing that. It occurs to me that mutants are more like pedophiles once they’ve done something horrible its a good idea to notify the neighbors if they are living close but until then there is no way to separate them from the harmless freaks.
As a normie with no powers, I’d have to reluctantly side with Stark because the super hero world is just too dangerous. But morally I’d support Cap. As a comic book reader and someone not facing death every day or the destruction of the world, Cap all the way
Stark was right but they made him too cartoonishly evil and obviously wanted people to be on Caps side.
Totally, my friend. I mean, should a self-proclaimed superhero who’s “powers” consist solely of having guns, or being really good at beating or stabbing people get a pass? Is them having a homemade costume or a Nom de Guerre what makes the difference, or them promising to mostly not deliberately kill anyone?
However, for the unpopular opinion…I’m for powers registration. I’m sorry, but I think this is one of those areas, if treated with any degree of seriousness, where a work’s allegorical intent or comparisons to real-world precedents has to break, and we have to deal with it as an entirely new situation. Yeah, you don’t license people to live…but you don’t require people to get a license to walk, or ride a horse, or a bicycle. But it’s generally accepted that licensing and training to drive a car or fly a plane is a necessity.
By the same logic, I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable for people born with or acquiring superpowers to have these abilities logged, and depending on the case require them to get at least some (probably subsidized) safety training at an accredited institution. Not exactly a metahuman draft…though if people were halfway intelligent about the situation, you’d think there’d be superpowered job fairs and enlistment bonuses for trained, rated superhumans.
You hardly require a face tattoo or a big “MUTANT” label on your driver’s license—maybe an automated flag that would come up if the police ran your ID, if you had really potentially dangerous abilities. But for abilities that were benign or useless—like “Big Ears Lad” or “Shuffles Cards Really Fast Girl,” they probably could just be left under some kind of privacy block. Hell, considering how common they are as superpowers in most comic universes, mildly superhuman strength and agility might not even be notable enough to garner a red flag.
Hey, it works for Batman.
In theory I agree. In practice, however, the government (any government) has a bad, bad history of abusing its own powers and without some sort of significant check you would end up with automatic conscription or internment camps or similar, all in the name of “public safety”. Before I agree to full registration I’d want some convincing checks on the use of that information.
I bet Iron Man knows what MySpace is.
The choice is clear.
(Still think that was one of the weirdest moments of the event)