Maryland State Police compensation is good*

In fact, it’s arguably far better than it should be. As I suspect is the case with numerous LE and other agencies, the secret is that regular and overtime pay aren’t the whole income picture (never mind quite nice fringe benefits). What no one (apparently) talks about – and I can see why – is retention pay incentive, mention of it is curiously absent in generally published info. (It can be had by reviewing a report identifying state government workers who make more than $100k in a given year.)

The incentive pay can range up to 115% of regular pay for members of the MSP, noting top leadership doesn’t receive it (power being its own reward/incentive). Not in the same whacky universe as the university people where someone’s base comp can be $400k and the incentive “other” for some can be an additional 400 percent – i.e., we all know the weird priority that is compensation of sport coaches, ‘cause a popular program means mo’ dough thru tuition and other streams (licensing), which in turn may be distributed to professors, management, vendors, etc. (rinse and repeat the racket/arms race that whomever began a couple of decades ago).

Anyway … because there is a corresponding decrease to retention-included “other” pay to account for overtime worked, if any – few jobs in a place or of a nature demanding it – OT seems a significant factor only for those who choose to work it to increase the pension should they want-need to retire any given moment after a certain point. (Inevitably, a few will pick up OT because they prefer to spend as much time away from home as possible.) This is so because pension is based on three highest years of income. The sum of those years is multiplied by give/take 1.75%; divide the result by 12 and you (roughly) have the monthly pension. Why is it three high years v. average of career earnings? And why is this generous pension benefit not ample “incentive”?[1]

Sample Analysis
From Bedroom Community/Semi-Rural County (Pop. 90,000)
(<20 Min Outside Beltway)

What other factors than dislike/unpopularity, lack of brown-nosing/political machinations or best buds/family with influence, etc. explains that a DSgt with 22 years in service makes the same (or less) as a early/mid-30s kid with 12 years? Salary compression is part of it, but this strikes me as odd.

In 2012, junior made $96k; the DSgt made $93k. Each made approximately $2k in overtime that year. Incentive to kid was just under $33k; to the senior officer, $7k (adjusted to offset OT). In 2014, the kid (then 14 years in service) made $102k ($200 in overtime and $31k in retention-included “other”); the senior officer now at 24 years in service made $97,409 (only $3,300 in retention-included “other” for obvious reason being that he’s in his 25th year) (“regular” salary $94k due to COLA, compared to $91k in 2013).

In 2013, the 22-year guy’s regular salary was $89k; the kid’s $63,900. The 22-year guy’s retention-included “other” money in 2013 was roughly $9k; the kid’s was just over $29k. Veteran DSGt (investigating supervisor to kid) grossed $101k overall (with $500 in overtime); kid made $95k (zero overtime)(minimal shift differential of $1.50/hour apparently included in “regular” pay).

Neither guy has anything worthy of mention in terms of performance (and yet I’ll make partial mention). The kid stopped being what may qualify as a performer after his 6th year of service, and even so cases were of the same (usually petty) variety that crossed his path v. county sheriffs. Things such as 2nd degree assault, disorderly, someone caught with marijuana or other unlawful drug, and/or paraphernalia; or the Walmart or other party complained about petty theft or robbery.[2] Kid’s been complainant or investigating officer (whether happening on or being called about) a half dozen low-level criminal cases so far this decade, and nothing since **2012 **… not even ubiquitous speeding citations or DUI/DWI cases. If a not-at-all-busy barrack, why not be deployed to one that has stuff to do like, oh, Bal’mer (Baltimore)? Why not a reduction in force?

And, I’m curious, does the supervisor know he’s making the same or less? Somehow, I doubt it. Were he aware, I’d like to believe this would serve as (flawed basis) inspiration – failing the simple notion of good protocol for its own sake if not regs-laws – to refuse to rubber-stamp poor investigation protocol and report writing. Were he aware, he might ride the kid to do better, with "you call this an ‘investigation’ report?! Have you heard of the best practice of putting a victim or witness’s statements in quotes … or at least preface with ‘ said that …’ to avoid taking ownership of facts on which you base a decision to seek charges from the [district court commissioner] when it may well not be accurate statement of fact or perception? If you can’t find your sample reports from the academy [and later publications], employ the internet for something other than [Y and/or Z], ‘kay?”

*I didn’t realize this would be even tangentially timely or topical until the other night, btw (Bal’mer).

[1] Far too generous if income figures for the formula does not exclude this “other” pay. I don’t believe too many cops deserve $5-6k/month pensions (or more, in future) when many move on to different govt agency jobs (DOT appears somewhat popular) or related careers at 45-50, just like career military.

[2] Since Maryland law recently changed on topic of marijuana possession, it seems some of the busy work has suddenly shifted to the category of citing people for selling cigarettes to minors (something largely ignored previously, but it comes with a decent fine).

I might be outraged if I had any idea what you were going on about.

TL;dr - what’s your point?

If one is required to make a particular point, I failed to notice it. Please accept my apology for any oversight. Perhaps it’s better suited for MPSIMS?? :slight_smile:

Well, Fallen is merely fighting ignorance.

I, for one, did not know much about the compensation of Maryland State Police officers.

But now I do.

Q.E.D. Ignorance fought.

But do you really care? I can’t see how anyone outside (or many people inside) of Maryland would even care.

Im in Maryland. I don’t care. I don’t know anyone who cares.

Some folks will care and some won’t. Depends on their personal len(ses). I think in a state (like most) facing very serious money problems, some citizens would be very disconcerted, because they likely operate with a view that these public servants are being undercompensated and don’t realize they’re getting less than they’re paying for. Like the persistent myth that is police work being an inherently very dangerous job when it hardly ever even cracks the top ten of dangerous jobs (9/11 being an anomaly), this doesn’t actually help.

I’d rather the calculus not be about politicians worrying about votes, but actual fair market job value and pay what the job is worth. (It isn’t as though one has problems attracting talent. In reality, the MSP is more of an exclusive white boys club where, like getting into certain schools, it certainly helps if there’s a legacy connection (relative).)

Personally, I’d rather they address judicial compensation. (As of 2014 anyway), District Court judges make $136k; Circuit Court judges make $149k. If the pay were better, the courts could attract better talent where it is sorely needed. Definitely a matter of (generally) you get what you pay for.

I’m in Maryland, and this is the first I’ve heard about how much state police make. I knew they weren’t starving, but this is a surprise.

It’s more disturbing in the context of how insane the compensation of law enforcement workers got in California, which Michael Lewis covered in his book “Boomerang”. IIRC, prison guards were able to retire after, like, five years, at pensions equal to their six-figure salaries. Such excesses were enabled by a lack of publicity about the arrangements, union clout and the third-rail nature of even talking about cutting LEO pay. Lewis conducted a bicycle-ride interview with the ex-governator himself, who said that he knew the economy was doomed when the Republicans turned against him for bringing up the subject.

Maryland’s economy is more prosperous than that of most states, mainly due to federal spending, which is likely to decline over the coming years. If we keep spending like it’s 2002, we could end up like California was a few years ago.

I care.

I think there are certain jobs where a premium needs to be paid to keep someone from going to another LEO job out of state, but only if that’s a *realistic *fear and the person has a skill set such that they’d be hard to replace. For instance, there’s a forensic examiner whose incentive-included “other” pay is 74% of regular salary. I can see that. What I don’t see is the value in paying some mid-30s guy to all but sit and twiddle, or do things that any number of other people can do (and happily) for 30-50% less. Is the market value of his job truly $100k a year to the taxpayer? I don’t think so. Sounds like political calculus at work to me.

I’m still trying to figure out, for instance, why the two guys that head up the fMSP firearm registration unit make as much/more than the governor (the supervisor gets incentive-included “other” of 103% of salary; next-in-line gets 110%). :slight_smile: Why? Is that dough incentive not to give in to corruption? Why can there not instead be periodic integrity checks (e.g., someone trying to influence them to forget about X entry, or enter Y as a registered weapon when it ought not be)?

I’d like to have integrity checks LEO system wide as a matter of course, btw, and not just ones initiated where boss or someone with influence over boss’s actions is pissed off at Joe about Z. Seems like disciplinary actions only tend to occur if someone really, really has it in for you.

I don’t have a problem with it because CA’s state police has very high pay. In January 2013 they had testing for the first time in years for, I think, about 100 positions. In the Sacramento area alone there were thousands of people. Thousands.

That means the state can have the cream of the crop. Instead of lowering standards now you practically need a college degree and be a veteran to even have a chance.

I don’t know about you, but I’d rather the person pulling me over not have to be a police officer because he failed out of everything else he tried.

I’m not sure how CA state police compensation is relevant to the price of tea in Maryland, but it is true that CA pays the best out of any state. :slight_smile: I believe also believe any number of other state government jobs fall well beneath police officer if the calculus is “can’t find anything better.” (I don’t know that the DOC folks feel they need to have very high standards.)

As an aside, it’s idiotic for any state government to allow its public servants to accrue unlimited vacation leave.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-12-17/highest-paid-california-trooper-is-chief-banking-484-000

Well, it does change the incentives for corruption. If cops make 150k a year, think about how much someone would have to offer as a bribe to even tempt them. It would put even attempting to bribe a cop out of reach of all but the richest criminals.

If corruption factor is someone’s actual calculus in deciding on a pay rate, that indicates grossly uninformed thinking and very simplistic notion of human nature and corruption (the legal definition of which is far broader than someone offering a public servant dough to do or not do X).

Howso? It has a two pronged approach to fighting corruption. In the first place it allows for a better applicant pool. In the second place, it diminishes the rationalization portion of the fraud triangle.

I have not studied thee matter at great length though, so I am not aware of any data that measures these effects.

I was a little shocked to discover how much NYPD officers make, and even more shocked to discover how much they get to retire. In fairness, the latter is partly because the police union bought then-worthless city bonds when the city was bankrupt-ish in the 1970s, and got a fat guaranteed annual payout to each officer in return (that continues today.)

Is there actually a shortage of applicants for appointments to the bench? I doubt it. I wouldn’t take a 50% pay cut to be a public defender but I’d sure as hell do it for a judicial appointment (not that I would be taking a pay cut based on those numbers anyway.)

Yes, there’s a shortage of applicants for judicial appointments with the requisite integrity, wisdom and sound legal knowledge.