Mass Grave Found in Ukraine

[Tuckerfan]

It contains the bodies of thousands of Jews killed in the Holocaust.

A mass grave holding the remains of thousands of Jews killed by the Nazis has been found in southern Ukraine near the site of what was once a concentration camp, a Jewish community representative said Tuesday.

The grave was found by chance last month when workers were preparing to lay gas pipelines in the village of Gvozdavka-1, near Odessa, said Roman Shvartsman, a spokesman for the regional Jewish community.

The Nazis established two ghettos during World War II near the village and brought Jews there from what is now Moldova as well as Ukrainian regions, Shvartsman said. In November 1941, they set up a concentration camp and killed about 5,000 Jews, he said.

[Kythereia]

There are no words.

[Eva_Luna]

I’d be shocked if that were the only undiscovered mass grave in Eastern Europe, frankly.

[Tuckerfan]

@Eva Luna

I’d be shocked if that were the only undiscovered mass grave in Eastern Europe, frankly.

Sadly, I’m sure you’re right.

[hajario]

My mother’s parents are from what is now Western Ukraine. All of the relatives who didn’t come to America were killed. Some of my cousins may be there. There are probably dozens of those still waiting to be found.

[Great_Dave]

I didn’t read the book, but the movie version of Everything is Illuminated is a good (and strangely funny) way to get some idea about this issue.

[ivylass]

@hajario

My mother’s parents are from what is now Western Ukraine. All of the relatives who didn’t come to America were killed. Some of my cousins may be there. There are probably dozens of those still waiting to be found.

Oh, haj, I’m so sorry.

Have any of the Holocasut-deniers popped up to “deny” this find? :rolleyes:

[rowrrbazzle]

That’s terrible. But it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the thousand times more Ukranians killed by Stalin.

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/Ukraine_famine.htm

[hajario]

@rowrrbazzle

That’s terrible. But it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the thousand times more Ukranians killed by Stalin.

So true. My Mom and one of her cousins went back to the villiages in Ukraine where their parents and grandparents lived. This was maybe fifteen years ago when some of the old timers who would have known them were still alive. They all said that the Soviets were way worse than the Nazis.

[Tuckerfan]

@hajario

So true. My Mom and one of her cousins went back to the villiages in Ukraine where their parents and grandparents lived. This was maybe fifteen years ago when some of the old timers who would have known them were still alive. They all said that the Soviets were way worse than the Nazis.

In Panzer Battles by Maj. Gen. von Mellathin, he says that when they (the German Army) took Ukraine, the Ukrainians greeted them as liberators, then when the SS showed up and started killing people, the Ukrainians turned against the Germans and put up some of the fiercest resistance during the war that von Mellathin saw (he fought on all of the German fronts, BTW).

[Sunrazor]

No, wait! Haven’t you heard? the Holocaust was a hoax! The Ukranian Jews must have died of … um … typhus, yeah, that’s it, typhus!

Sorry, I know it’s not funny, but every single time the Holocaust gets mentioned, I am absolutely compelled to remind people that it’s not enough just to remember. We have to work hard to keep the memory alive, and that means working just as hard as the revisionists – and they are tireless!

[Rodd_Hill]

You know, I think the saddest thing of all is that when I first saw the bare headline about a mass grave found in Ukraine, I wondered if the grave was from Czarist, Stalinist 1930s, Nazi WW2 or Stalinist 1950s times.