Suicide by society. He believes it’s society’s fault nobody likes him and he wants to punish it collectively on the way out.
Nice try, but I don’t think that one fits either.
I don’t think any of these type of mass murderers have ever been charged for being a terrorist, have they?
Closest recent one I can think of that may qualify is the guy that purposely went to a black neighborhood and shot only black people in a supermarket. I think he had posted about “replacement theory” crap before the shooting.
I believe the Buffalo grocery store guy is in fact being charged with terrorism.
Looks like you are right, but the charges are not what I thought they would be. I thought terror would be a Federal crime, but they are charging as a hate crime.
The federal indictment charges Gendron with 10 counts of hate crimes resulting in death, three counts of hate crimes involving an attempt to kill three people and another hate crime count alleging Gendron tried to kill other Black people in and around the store. It also includes 13 counts of using a firearm in a hate crime.
The state is charging him with something called “hate motivated domestic terrorism.”
Gendron also faces a parallel state prosecution on charges including hate-motivated domestic terrorism, murder and attempted murder as a hate crime. The domestic terrorism hate crime charge carries an automatic life sentence. He has pleaded not guilty to those charges as well.
That’s backwards from what I had assumed. I live in NY, tho I’ve been away a lot since covid hit, and I didn’t know there was such a law. It’s recent, passed during the period I’ve been away.
The domestic terrorism hate crime charge — officially, domestic acts of terrorism motivated by hate in the first degree — was added to state law just two years ago, after a mass shooting targeting Mexicans at a Walmart store in El Paso, Texas. The offense carries an automatic life sentence upon conviction
Oh, good, IMO.
The father of a man charged in a deadly Fourth of July parade shooting in suburban Chicago pleaded guilty to seven misdemeanors on Monday in a case that centered on how his son obtained a gun license.
Robert Crimo Jr entered the plea as his trial was about to start in Lake county court, in Waukegan, Illinois. He was immediately sentenced by Judge George Strickland to 60 days in jail, starting next week, and 100 hours of community service.
Unfortunately very little punishment.
Well, the laws in question are misdemeanors, and judging from the voluntary “guilty” plea, there was obviously some plea bargain negotiation to reduce the sentence.
IMHO - one of the reasons they went with a comparatively light plea option is that it overall improves the precedent that parents or other third parties who assist in the purchase of weapons can be held accountable for the actions taken with such weapons.
Getting a guilty strengthens those cases, rather than a long involved court battle that -could- go either way since IIRC the shooter had reached the age where he could have bought weapons on his own prior to the shooting. Still, the actual weapons USED were ones bought during the period in which his father was the sponsor.
Can one of our lawyers explain this
How can you be changed with killing a person three times? Once they’re dead, they’re dead, right?
My guess is that there were three different criminal acts involved in each death, and he pled guilty to all of them. Unfortunately, when I try to google that, the results are clogged with news stories from today, none of which are spelling that out.
I know there’s a way to change the date range, but I really wish Google would implement some sort of “don’t show me results less than X days old” button, for exactly these situations.
I found a 2022 AP article, from Crimo’s original indictment, which includes this paragraph:
IANAL, but this suggests to me that for each death, he faced three separate charges, which amounted to:
- Intent to kill
- Caused death or great bodily harm
- Took action with a strong probability of causing death or great bodily harm
It could also be first degree murder (killing with intent), murder committed with a weapon (the gun), and murder in the course of committing another felony (firing on the crowd).