May all the kidnapped children roast in hell!

Agreed. Im going to enjoy it while it lasts. :woozy_face:

I don’t remember getting any sort of emergency warnings on TV, but then I rarely watch TV. I did get several on the car radio, with the annoying loud sound effects that made me almost jump out of my seat. One or two were Amber alerts about a missing child, and one was a warning of potential tornadoes, which are very rare around here but they do happen.

But I’m happy to say that when the feds conducted a national test of the emergency warning system on cell phones, mine remained mercifully silent, and it has never received an alert. Possibly because I inadvertently disabled it or never enabled it, or because it’s an inexpensive Samsung J3 running on an older network technology. I’m fine with it, though, and don’t even need a smartphone, but the carrier gave it to me free so I would shut up about them discontinuing the VERY old CDMA cell service that my previous phone used. So, a perfectly functional smartphone that doesn’t get any alerts – ideal for me! :slight_smile:

Mildly off-topic…why do they send out a “Silver Alert” for older teens and young adults? (Or is this just a North Carolina thing?) I had always thought the Silver Alerts were reserved for at-risk elderly adults, but in this area they seem to be issued for anyone who isn’t a small child.

Also, does anyone get any kind of alerts on their landline? I mentioned to an elderly relative the other day that I was thinking of canceling my landline service, and she was very concerned that I wouldn’t receive severe weather alerts anymore. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: I get all of my alerts – weather, Amber, and so on – through my mobile phone only. The home security system will occasionally blast out a weather alert if things are really nasty, but it has its own little mobile phone system.

Your point is well-taken; OTOH, I was tickled that it was in iambic pentameter.

You’ve been given the solution. Turn off the television. If you’re looking for sympathy, such an inflammatory and offensive thread title is a poor place to start.

How? As my link shows, ATT itself officially answers “Sorry, we can’t control these alerts.”

OTOH, my TV problem may not be with Amber Alerts but with their regular “emergency warning” alerts that I get every week. It strikes me as incredibly intrusive to get these that often–I maybe could understand if they need to do a yearly test, but even then I’d ask “Why make it so loud?” As with the Amber Alerts, a Bach Cantata would get my attention just as well as an ear-piercing shriek that signals “Atom bomb near you! Prepare to die!”, so why the need for top volume disruptive sounds if all they’re doing is testing their equipment or notifying me of something that saves (tops) one life every year or so. I’m still intested in the figure of exactly how many lives have been saved with the regularly scheduled ear-piercing noises, and why we don’t do this for every danger in society.

There’s no shortage of federal offenses, nor of those involving immediate danger to innocent civilians, yet this is the only one I know that requires citizens to be notified so harshly. This is a serious pitting, the hyperbolic title notwithstanding, to which so many have responded with pearl-clutching horror, that I hesitate to clarify my concern.

OK. Hesitation over.

I was thinking of putting a more sober version of this thread in GQ or GD until I found this thread lurking there, My issues are twofold:

  1. the need for such urgency in responding to possible child abductions at all. As stated, there are loads of crimes that are dealt with by the constabulary without having a cow. As a parent, I might run into my local precinct grasping my hair in both hands and demand that every officer on duty be assigned immediately to finding my wayward missing child, but I will rightly be told, “Sir, we are taking the appropriate steps, we are trying to track down the vehicle, locate the abductor, stake out his likely destinations, but our officers have other responsibilities besides finding your child.” Were I to demand that authorities, say, shut off everyone’s electrical power to call more attention to my plight, I would rightly be told to check into the closest mental institution for observation.

But, according to the principle of Amber Alerts, aren’t I correct in thinking shutting off everyone’s electricity would rile up the community so that they would read the pamphlets being dropped by the thousands by a fleet of helicopters describing my child’s outfit and the license plate of the abductor’s car? Well, yes, but as you’re no doubt about to point out, that’s a ridiculous over-reaction.

Well, so is an Amber Alert. There are ways to deal with violent crime that do not call out in any form to the general population to be alerted. Every other violent crime-in-progress that I can think of, in fact.

So that’s one question: why the absurd (and ineffective) overreaction for this one crime? BUT

  1. more practically, why this METHOD of alerting the general population? This inquiry refers to all alerts–weather, impending power outages, whatever–that reach people via TV or cel phone. I’d estimate that a chyron running politely along the bottom of my TV screen would reach roughly 98% of the people whose attention is grabbed by a shrieking, unpleasant noise at top volume. If some sound is required, I think I’d look up at my screen if suddenly some classical music started playing along with the newscast or sitcom I was watching. Why do they need to make the sound so deliberately unpleasant?

The answer to both questions, I think, is: BECAUSE THEY CAN. Ninnies whose all-purpose response to almost any question is “think of the children!” take the opportunity to run (metaphorically) into my police station, shrieking about the children, and polite and sane society has no hope of outshouting them.

This might be the most First World problem I’ve ever seen :joy:

What phone do you have? On Galaxies it is as easy as going to Notifications, Wireless Emergency Alerts. One of the choices is AMBER alerts and I turned it off.

Seriously, don’t rely on ATT, check Google for your phone. Figure out what device is using your TV and they probably have some options to tweak also.

What’s by far more irritating than any amber alert, is daytime television morning shows. Everything about them is annoying. Maybe kidnap morning show hosts and not bother to have amber alerts to find them.

There is a lens through which I can see this pitting and better understand it.

We used to live a few hundred yards from the town’s railroad tracks. Unless a crap-ton of money was spent, and a political decision was made, to fund a ‘quiet zone’, the train whistle has to be blown at crossings:

Under the Train Horn Rule (49 CFR Part 222), locomotive engineers must begin to sound train horns at least 15 seconds, and no more than 20 seconds, in advance of all public grade crossings.

And these things are loud:

The maximum volume level for the train horn is 110 decibels which is a new requirement. The minimum sound level remains 96 decibels.

Context:

And this is the universe of what’s at stake (granted, the number may be smaller than it would be were these laws not in place, but I’m not sure that’s a given.)

Railroad deaths totaled 757 in 2020 {…}

[SOURCE]

In the NextDoor discussions, lots of people complained (fully aware that the railroad was there first) that the noise could be deafening, and woke them up several times a night.

Lots of people were unaffected by the noise for differing reasons, and – as would be expected – had absolutely zero sympathy for those harmed by the train whistles.

But it inconveniences, or harms, a whole lot of people, in countless towns across the USA, in an effort – an effort with questionable efficacy – to save a precious few.

I can avoid these intrusive TV/phone alerts much more successfully than we could avoid the intrusive nature of the train whistle.

It’s also a bit discriminatory as … “near the tracks” is usually not considered the most prime real estate. I would wager that “near the tracks” tends to be the lower income section of most towns punctuated by railroad tracks.

For just this reason (noise, dust, and being impeded by traffic probably tops among the various reasons).

Sometimes, these well-meaning policies cast a ridiculously wide net.

I just discovered and turned off the most First World alert ever.

On my Pixel phone is an optional Digital Wellbeing alert. What the hell is that?

“Android’s Digital Wellbeing tools give you a daily view of how often you check your phone and how frequently you use different apps .”

Thank you, but I don’t need to have you reinforce my “personal sense of digital wellbeing”.

Amber Alerts are turned off too.

Tangent - there is an Argosy casino/hotel in Kansas City (OK, Riverside). There was a crossing with gates that was the main entrance to the complex - which is very close to switching yard (and hence there is a constant stream of trains). Hotel guests were very unhappy with the constant train horns all night long.

The casino (mostly) paid to close that road and replace it. What is labeled “Zeke Road” used to be the entrance - apparently it is not enough of a crossing any more that it requires a horn. It was replaced the Argosy Casino Parkway that curves around and has an overpass over the tracks.

Tangent to the tangent: When I first read this, I honestly thought to myself, “I knew there was a Kansas City, MO and a Kansas City, KS, but I never knew there was a Kansas City, OK.”

It might be, but I’m pointing out a first world problem that I didn’t have when I lived in other sections of the first world. I lived in NYC for most of my life, and there I could leave my TV set on in “sleep” mode and turn it on in the morning, or when I got up from a nap, without retuning it to the station I wanted to watch. Here I can’t, unless I also want to run the risk of being woken by an utterly unnecessary ear-piercing shriek.

Figuring out how to turning off the Amber alerts was one of the first things I did when I got my first smart phone. The one place Amber alerts would be useful is when you are driving and might take a quick look at the cars around you if one of them matched the description, but that is the exact point where you SHOULDN’T BE LOOKING AT YOUR DAMN CELL PHONE!

I wonder how the statistics of children saved through Amber alerts compares to accidents caused by every driver on the road checking their phones at the exact same time.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this.

I’m reading the OP as essentially saying “I am having problems with the things my TV is broadcasting. Is there anything I can do?”

Yes, turn off your TV.

So, acceptable losses, amirite?

How are things in Omelas?

I understood that reference.

Also, @Roger_That, I believe Amber alerts are now nationwide. You’ll get them in NYC now, too. I certainly get them where I live, which is fairly close to Philly.

Not over the TV, just on the smart phones and easy to turn off if you don’t want them.