Maybe America Is Hated Because We Help So Much

I don’t know if I am right on this but I have seen it happen in my own life. It seems the more you help people the more you are hated for it. I had an employee one time that always was having problems so I helped her out of many situations. Once she was having her house forclosed on so I cosigned at a bank for her to keep her from losing it. Sure enough she defaulted and I was stuck for over $8,000 dollars. Then when she didn’t call into work for a week and half I had to let her go and sure enough she sued me.

So it got me to thinking about the US how we jump to help everywhere we can and I wonder if the same thing is happening to her.

I heard this article read at my church Sunday and it made me think how America has done so much with little or no appreciation. Ya’ll may have already read it because it has been on the net but I am sure others haven’t. It comes from a Canadian journalist, Gordan Sinclair.

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous an dpossibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and to a lesser extent, Britain and Itably were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the US.

When France was danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the US that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.

I’d like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the eroision of the US dollar build its own airplane. Does any other Country in the world have a plane to equal the Boing Jumbo Je, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don’t they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk abou Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon - not once but several times and safely home again.

You talk about scandles, an the Americans put theirs right in the store windowfor everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgersare not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breadking Candian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany, and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennyslvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone raced in to help the Americans in trouble? I don’t think therre was outside help evne during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors ha ve faced it alone, and I’m one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this think with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."

Bill, that article has been ALL OVER the internet recently. We’ve all seen it.

I wish I could say it was true, but no, we’re not hated because we help. We do help, a great deal, but we’ve also done some pretty nasty things.

This does not mean I do not love my country-I do. But because I love it, I have to speak up about the attrocities it has committed-because when our government does this, it goes against everything we stand for.

Try reading Inevitable Revolution: the United States in Central America by Walter LeFeber.

First:

Read this

I cannot see how people would hate another person, country, or institution because they go out of their way to help others. That is generally recognized as a good thing and the Red Cross (for example) seems to be pretty welcome wherever they go. Of course, the Red Cross is not a superpower and they don’t meddle in the affairs of other countries.

For as good as your average American is there have been some very unpopular decisions made by your government and there’s where some of the backlash and hatred stem. America’s policy of supporting Israel is a good example. By doing this you are going to have quite a few PO’d Palestinians and more than a few Americans I have talked to oppose this as well.

Note: The speech by Gordon Sinclair that you heard at church was originally broadcast June 5, 1973 and Mr. Sinclair passed away in 1984.

After seeing how these countries citizens operate especially in light of 9/11/01 on what they did to us, I can see why our govt chose to help Israel over these lunatic fanatics.

We aren’t getting into any confusion regarding causality, are we Wildest Bill? No, of course not! We didn’t start supporting Israel until after a small faction of Islamic fundamentalists (something that has yet to be proven) got pissed at us for helping Israel, right? Wait, something sounds fishy there.

Bill, Bill, Bill…
The problem is, some of the people we supported in Israel were also extremists. Not to mention the ones we supported in Latin America…

Terrorism, as we view it today, does indeed seem to have a causal relationship with American involvement in Israel.

According to some, terrorism began because that was the only way they could fight a superpower, or a superpower’s ally. Sounds great, but they were fighting in the first place, and we didn’t cause that.

Guinistasia, can I ask you a huge favor? Can you just start a thread about American involvement in Latin America already and get it off your chest? I would love to hear what you have to say, but not as passing comments dropped off in random threads. I understand, from what I have read, your compulsion to mention it, but it is its own topic and I would just like to see it treated as more than cheap shots at America in different threads.

Yeah. Those innocent boys and girls at the CIA are just trying to help…

Sorry about the typo in your name Guinastasia :frowning:

Bill, what do you think of America’s actions at the Durban conference? Do you think that might have given people cause to dislike us?

There’s also this:

http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/site/viewtr.cfm?uc_full_date=20010913&uc_comic=tr&uc_daction=X
I had found more info on the web about why America is disliked, but I can’t find it right now. I’ll post it later if I find it.

-Ben

Ben,

What actions are you referring to at the Durban Conference? Also your link didn’t work out right.

I wonder if we are hated because “they” think that “we” all have nice jobs, money, fast cars and (begging your pardon) scantily clad women hanging on out arm, while “they” have nothing or very little.

Seems like they should hate their govt for that not us. I mean when you think about it we are the only reason their sorry little countries have any money because of the oil we buy from them.

The Durban conference was supposed to address world racism, but turned into an anti-Semitic, anti-Israel bashfest. The US did the right thing to walk out. It’s a shame Europe didn’t as well.

Yeah, how dare those sorry-ass bitches not have the good sense to born in the United States instead of other countries so they could have the same stuff. :rolleyes:

Incidentally, Bill, what little money Afghanistan does have comes primarily from agriculture, not oil.

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The Durban conference was an international conference on racism which was in the news a couple of weeks ago. Some Arabs wanted a resolution passed which would condemn Zionism as being a form of racism. Rather than say (for example) “tone down the rhetoric, and we’ll talk about your concerns,” the US simply walked out. Our way or the highway, eh?

Here’s another question for you: back in the 1970’s, when the Ayatollah Khomeini deposed the Shah of Iran, why did they take hostages from the American embassy, instead of, say, the French embassy? Was it because we rebuilt France and Germany after WWII? Because we put a man on the moon? Or is there another, simpler reason?

What do you think that reason might be?

Cut-and-paste the URL into the appropriate window, and you’ll see the cartoon. Or go to http://www.rall.com and look at the Sept 13 cartoon.

-Ben

Well isn’t that rational of them? Sheesh, I wasn’t born a Trump or a Gates I think I am going to go blow up some innocent rich people because of it. :rolleyes:

Bill
I am a flag-waving, “Go USA,” patriot, but I am also not blind to our nation’s faults.

Since 1950, the US has overthrown governments in Iran, Guatemala, the Congo, and Chile that we deemed inimical to our diplomatic and business interests.

The US was instrumental in destabilizing the Lon Nol government in Cambodia, allowing the Khmer Rouge to begin its murderous regime.

The US is widely seen as a bully even by its allies. For example, to benefit domestic agribusiness interests, the US has erected stiff tariffs on sugar and bananas that have helped cripple Caribbean economies.

The Arab world sees the US as an enemy, both for exporting what they see as cultural pollution and for support of Israel.

I am taking a guess here. Because we our a bigger more signifant country than France is?

The real answer is that I don’t know.

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That’s true, but let’s not paint too rosy a picture of it. Practically all the money they got from “agriculture” was, until very recently, from opium poppies.