God dammit, I can’t believe McCain won the Democratic Primary.
I sometimes wish I belonged to an organized political party, instead of being a Democrat.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. " - a friend of my Grandfather
H. L. Mencken was a friend of your grandfather?
Moving thread from In My Humble Opinion to Mundane Political Stuff I Must Share.
If only we had a forum called MPWTF.
We’re all a little bit dumber for having read it.
Do you perhaps mean the Republican primary? Or was there a massive write-in effort in Texas?
I am guessing it is a comment on the Dems taking great care to shot themselves in the foot, and that McCain is the true winner of all the events of yesterday.
I"m not sure how things could be going much worse for the Dems all in all. The party is seriously divided, and who ever wins will not have a mandate. The Voters in Michigan and Florida are completely disenfranchised by their own party, and approximately half of them are going to be pissed. They may have to go to court to decide their own party, and all in all it will be decided by judges, and a mysterious cabal deciding the ‘will of the party’. They are spending their own money to prove how unqualified for president is, whichever candidate will be chosen. It’s getting uglier and dirtier as they get more desparate, and factional resentment is growing. They are going deep to the well for cash, making me wonder how much will still be there for the party vs. party part. While nice guy McCain sits on the sidelines.
And on top of it all their greatest strength ie. ‘Iraq war sucks and Bush sucks’ has been pushed off the front pages and forgotten about as their infighting consumes the nation.
Two years ago I would have given the Pub a 5% chance of winning in 2008. Now it’s beginning to look very possible.
>I am guessing it is a comment on the Dems taking great care to shoot themselves in the foot…
Right you are. Dammit.
>Two years ago I would have given the Pub a 5% chance of winning in 2008. Now it’s beginning to look very possible.
Right you are again. Dammit again.
Years from now, this election season will be studied in PoliSci classes as a case-study in “Defeat from the Jaws of Victory”.
I’m loving it! 
It’s worth pointing out that even though he’s had the nomination sewn up for weeks now McCain still lost 35% or more of the primary vote in several states to Huckabee yesterday.
I think having a close fought campaign among democrats is less harmful to their cause than having substantial numbers of republicans voting for a dead-end candidate out of protest is to McCain’s.
My wife and I do get confused with the Dems.
If they’d just nominated John Edwards, we would have voted with them. But no, they get all idealistic and nominate Clinton or Obama.
We’ll probably either not vote or vote for McCain. By all means, this is the Dem’s election to lose…and I think they might actually do it!
Who could ever have predicted the Dem’s might not follow up Bush’s presidency?
I’m always surprised by the number of people on this board who thought there was no way the Democrats could lose in 2008. But there were definitely people who thought it could happen.
>I’m always surprised by the number of people on this board who thought there was no way the Democrats could lose in 2008.
For my part, I certainly never thought this. I thought there SHOULDN’T be a way to do it, that only the most hideous freak of circumstances could possibly allow it, that there’s no imaginable scenario in which the Dems could blow it, that the very idea was the stuff of ridicule - but, sadly, I’ve been afraid of it every minute.
Oh, yeah, to answer the question - Grandfather said Mencken was a friend of his. Grandfather, though, wasn’t famous, and I never met Mencken. I don’t know whether Mencken said Grandfather was a friend of his, a much more critical threshold test. Grandfather was somewhat fond of dropping names.
“No Republican can win after Bush” sounds solid as a theory, but the reality is that most people have shorter political memories than Dopers do - and they’re less ideological and politically involved.
>most people have shorter political memories than Dopers do
Damn straight. Look at the people who voted Bush back into office in 2004. They couldn’t remember back just, what, zero days?
Exactly. That the outcome would be outrageous and not make any sense holds no water.
Riot at the DNC convention in Denver!!!
Nah. It will look a lot different when one or the other goes head to head with McCain. This part of the campaign will be largely forgotten at that point.
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Oh, and try to be less coy about what you really mean in your OP. It’s not cute; it’s irritating.
Tell me about it. I’ve been preaching it since I joined the board. 2004 should have been the can’t lose election, even more than this one. I kept wondering if the Republicans would shoot themselves in the foot with one of the more extreme candidates. Instead they managed to pick the most electable of their guys despite the Theo-Cons and Neo-Cons not liking or trusting him.
Here Obama could be riding a wave of popular upwelling and instead the campaign is miring down and the nearly unelectable Hillary is going dirtier by the week. Way to go Dems, way to go.
Here is hoping this gets straightened out in time to not hand this to McCain.
Jim