Which is why they’re better received than the average big-budget action blockbuster. They’re still pretty much well-made popcorn movies, though. Which isn’t always enough gristle for some people. Even some people who love superheroes and comics.
Don’t be an jerk, unless that was a whoosh (YOU ARE STANDING AT THE END OF A ROAD BEFORE A SMALL BRICK BUILDING. AROUND YOU IS A FOREST. A SMALL STREAM FLOWS OUT OF THE BUILDING AND DOWN A GULLY.). You know what I mean, and you’re better than rikwriter and his unceasing argumentum ad populum. (Yes, I had to look it up.) Like I said, I want good, exciting movies, and superheroes are the flavor of the decade, so I need to deal.
I agree absolutely. I just want them to be better.
This thread may not have happened if I hadn’t tried to remember Ultron–and then watched it. And Suicide Squad was awful. I think we can agree on that. And that it is good that Stan Lee didn’t make a cameo in Black Panther.
I’m really not trying to be a jerk, and whatever your reasons you are fully entitled to hold whatever opinion you like about any movie regardless of how well received it is; it just seems as though your stated rationales for what you expect and how the MCU films are lacking is inconsistentand contradictory. And pointing at Age of Ultron as being and exemplar for Marvel Studios overall is like complaining that the Edsel is proof that Ford cannot build good cars. They’ve made worse films, and many that were better, but if none of them appeal to you so far you should probably drop them because they have a production formula that is pretty dialed in and are making money faster than an oil tycoon in the 1930s, even as they take risks with giving unproven independent film directors multi-hundred dollar budgets to work with.
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I pointed to Ultron because it was the one I was watching at the time, and if I dislike them so much then why have I seen so damned many of them? Including the 1944 Captain America serial (I was going to lie about seeing that one until it started and, yup, seen it and I can recall when and where) and the 1990 Captain America, though it took the Son of Svengoolie (inspiration for some of the MST3K crew) to get me through it. Not so much Hulk (Banner was always a whiney bitch) and Spidey (too much teenage angst) and complaining about the first Thor without seeing it got me suspended.
I refer again to the title of this thread, “MCU movies have begun to bore me.” Put the emphasis on “have begun.”
Finally, the Edsel was no worse than its contemporaries. It had some styling miscues, also common at the time, and an ugly name but Henry II loved his dad and, had he lived longer, Edsel himself would never have greenlighted such an ugly car. He had better taste than that.
He was in the casino in Seoul.
Too bad you still aren’t using it right.
I didn’t watch Suicide Squad, because I don’t watch bad movies, but she did look good in the previews, and she is an interesting actress. Check her out in The Wolf of Wall Street and I, Tonya as well as her memorable cameo in The Big Short. And in that cameo, she speaks in her natural Australian accent. Many people don’t realize she’s an Aussie.
Nope, I got it right. Check nearly all of your posts in this thread for examples.
Y’see, Wife and I survived 40 years together because we liked similar movies. I’ll quote her criteria, though I’ve done it before.
She lived long enough to see Pacific Rim, her perfect movie. None of your movies qualify, though I’d probably like The Big Short based on its cast. I, Tonya is right out because I’m still haunted by Hardings sex tape and her showing off a handful of “little Gilloolies” (Wife’s phrase) to the camera. :eek: The ladies at church thought she was so prim and respectable. 
One should note that suïcide squad isn’t part of the mcu. That piece of sh*t is all DC.
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Yeah, but I watched part of it despite that.
At that point it wasn’t established because the movie had just come out and most critics were not allowed to pre screen.
It seems that, of people who are paid to think critically about film, most agree with me. Richard Roper doesn’t. But Infinity War seems to be coming in as a solid C+/B- of a movie. Overstuffed and overlong seem to be the themes of the critical reception.
My problem with the MCU is the complete lack of stakes, both for the characters and within the movies themselves. But this isn’t necessarily a fault of the MCU, but of our legal and economic system re: copyrights, problems largely developed at the behest of the MCU owners, Disney.
- Within the movies, the stakes are too big to be “worrisome”, for wont of a better word. Thanos is gonna destroy half the Universe? No he isn’t: I know he isn’t going to “destroy half the universe” the second that is his stated goal because the stakes are so massive they, paradoxically, descend into irrelevance.
Gonna kill a person? We care. Gonna destroy the Earth? Yawn.
- As characters, there are no stakes. Disney owns the copyright - none of these guys are going to die, period. They will all be resurrected for another generation, and again, and again. Too much money is at stake* for the characters to actually be “in danger” of anything.
So, who is going to “die” at the end of all this? None of them. The actors are going to retire, and because of this the characters will “die”, but sure as shit they will be resurrected again once Disney recasts the role. And slas soon as that happens, then this entire sequence of movies becomes, well, meaningless.
*I guess I was wrong. The stakes are incredible! 
Were you hoping for it?
As “superheroes”, this is true. I think that, as characters, people get invested in the actors and so ultimately care if (for example) RDJ’s contract as Iron-Man ends with him happily retiring in marriage or if he makes a noble sacrifice to save the world or otherwise goes off into the sunset. Even if we know that eventually there’ll be a new Iron-Man franchise with some other actor playing Stark. I disagree that this makes it meaningless since my interest is in what happens to this incarnation of Stark, not whether or not I’ll ever see a red & gold robot suit again in my lifetime.
Of course, these days it’s so well know if there’ll be a Black Panther 3 or when people’s contracts are set to expire, etc that even casual viewers may well know this can’t be the end for Super-Guy until Movie #8.
To that end, I’ve occasionally run into people who will go out of their way to avoid any news about casting or future projects, and will angrily declare that even sentences like “So-and-so is contracted for 2 more movies” or “Hero-Man 3 is already on the schedule” are spoilers, and should be hidden in spoiler boxes, and yell at you if you don’t.
I think overexposure might be part of the problem. We are being inundated by these comic based superhero movies which, by their very nature, all follow the same basic “villain-crisis-superbattle-resolution” script. One of the things that made Star Wars movies such a happening was the fact that there were so few of them.
They’re judging the movie on its own, which is ludicrous because it’s not on its own. Only a fucking idiot would walk into this movie thinking you can see it and none of the other Marvel movies and still understand everything.
There can be stakes other than life or death. This is something Black Panther did very well. I won’t go into details for spoiler reasons, but very real and seemingly permanent changes were on the table and some actually happened.
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And yet he kills half the universe, including many big name characters. So…
There hasn’t been an MCU long enough to really know how this is going to work, but one possibility is that the hero/franchise will continue but the character will die. So at some point in the universe, Tony Stark will die or retire. Then someone else will take up the mantle of Iron Man. But Tony Stark will remain dead. Not just that another actor will play Tony Stark/Iron Man, but another actor will play (some other name)/Iron Man. Precisely how they follow through with that remains to be seen… but there is a LOT of speculation that precisely that will happen for some/all of the core avengers at the end of the next Avengers movie (due next year). In any case, they’ve made enough sensible decisions to suggest to me that they are aware of this issue.