Don’t mean to semi-hijack, but has anyone experienced one of these “new” pat-downs?
Does anyone else really want to pop a Viagra, think sexy thoughts, and then demand a pat-down, while grinning ecstatically? Perhaps the TSA agents themselves would protest the new measures if they were constantly feeling boners all day…
I amused myself greatly by contemplating someone doing the Meg Ryan bit from “When Harry Met Sally” during their “patdown”.
Can you elaborate on your conclusions here?
I got selected for a “pat-down” the last time I flew, and didn’t find myself it to be untenable situation. I had someone manually feel along both of my inseams until their hand couldn’t go up any further. Nope, nothing concealed there. Big effing deal. I am not a member of any minority population that I’m aware of, unless you stretch the definition really far. Neither are the whinging Meg McLain or “Johnny Edge.”
If they asked me to go through the backscatter machine, I think I might opt for the pat-down instead - at least until there’s more information about their safety. I am not terribly concerned about anyone wanking to the imagery or deriving amusement from any physical shortcomings I may have, because that’s ridiculous.
Suck it up and get on the plane, or don’t.
Someone was quoted in our paper this morning saying that the whole process was “the most embarrassing and humiliating experience” of her life.
Methinks someone doesn’t get out much.
Another complainer was very exercised about his 4- and 8-yo daughters and how the TSA would “take naked pictures of them” and “grope them.”
Methinks…well, I suspect you guys can figure out pretty well what methinks about that one.
I don’t know how much information this process will give TSA officials. And I’m not a person who blithely accepts that we should inconvenience everyone more than they are already being inconvenienced to help forestall a possible threat. Nonetheless, it’s hard not to escape the suspicion that these complainers are perfectly aware of the threat, but think it is limited to known enemies of the US, that is, Muslims; since they are personally not Muslims and not dressed in “Muslim garb,” they should be exempt from this sort of indignity.
Sigh.
I agree with Larry Mudd–get on the plane, or don’t. There’s no inalienable right to fly to Disney World.
That option is not given at the airport. If you don’t submit to screening you risk a fine and legal action.
I was under the impression that if you did not wish to submit to screening, you were free to turn around and go home.
Do you have a cite for your claim that once you enter the lineup, you MUST SUBMIT to screening, under threat of legal action, and you are not free to leave?
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Cite. ** “The requirement for all the passengers is that once they enter the screening area and submit themselves to the screening process, to complete the screening,” said Aguilar. “This passenger took exception.”
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I don’t know when this started but judging from this the fine has gone up which implies it’s been in affect for awhile:
**Michael J. Aguilar, chief of the TSA office in San Diego, called a press conference at the airport Monday afternoon to announce the probe. The investigation could lead to prosecution and “civil penalties” of up to $11,000, he said.
TSA agents told Tyner on Saturday that he could be fined up to $10,000.
“That’s the old fine,” said Aguilar. “It has been increased.”**
Well, if Rosemary Fitzpatrick says it’s true, it must be so!! :rolleyes:
(wait, does she have a dick too?)
I didn’t reference her specifically. What I did do was ask my friends who fly for a living if there were recent changes to the pat down procedure before I posted. They confirm that the procedures have changed. I’ve also posted cites backing up what I’ve said. Here’s another:
**The new search technique used by the Transportation Security Administration allows airport security screeners to use their fingers and palms to feel and probe for hidden weapons and devices around sensitive body parts, such as the breast and groin areas.
In the past, TSA officers brushed along those body parts with the back of their hands to feel for hidden objects.
The TSA tested the more assertive pat-down technique this summer at airports in Boston and Las Vegas and has expanded the use of the procedure this weekend to airports nationwide.
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How much does one get paid to grope people all day long? Why would anyone want to do that?
You didn’t reference her specifically but the link you posted that I quoted was a story all about her??
I think the Dept of Homeland Security has established a threshold of # of Youtube views for anti-TSA videos, whereupon it will raid some Somali or Yemeni-run electronics store in Kanasas City or wherever, which they’ve been [DEL]keeping on jold for just this purpose[/DEL] monitoring, and make a banner-headline bust of this latest terrorist cell.
referencing a man’s genitals. If you do any research at all you’ll understand that the TSA has changed their search policy and people in the profession are objecting to it as well as passengers.
Given this new information, it does sound pretty ridiculous. Was there an event that triggered this new policy, and did I miss it? I really hope they roll this back before I fly next month.
And seriously, any guy who can conceal a bomb next to his junk is going to accomplish little more than singing soprano.
It was that “underwear bomber” guy who stashed some plastic explosives in his undies, and pretty much just scorched himself trying to set them off.
I’m vaguely worried that the next half-competent bomber-wannabe is going to insert them rectally or vaginally to get the bomb stuff on the plane. Screening is going to suck after that if the TSA takes it to their version of a logical conclusion.
I also find it curious that when a passenger makes a big show about getting felt up, a lot of people will point out what dramatic fools they’re being, yet make no comment whatsoever on the much bigger (and better-funded) dramatic production of security theater that brought this whole debate on in the first place.
Ah, thanks. I barely have a memory of that.
If you’re gonna handle me like that at least buy me dinner.