Want to throw any other excuses in before you’re done?
Let me get this right: you came into a thread about a subject you seem to know nothing about and clearly haven’t read to grace us with your straight-out-of-your ass bullshit while quoting Dio directly.
Once you read the responses and see just how full of shit you are you decide that the best way to rectify it is to throw out an insult to the ONE person you bothered to quote and wave a dismissive hand around about not watching news 24/7 and not knowing what forum you’re in?
Saying that you meant to phrase it as a question just makes it funnier. The excuse making is just pathetic. Why not just say you posted without having a clue and be honest?
No one has accused you of supporting domestic violence. You were factually corrected on an erroneous claim about the legality of the recordings, and your comments on alleged (and still uncited) “News stories” about the audio possibly being tampered or faked were addressed in detail. That’s all. No one impugned your motives.
Sure, if that makes you happier. I didn’t read the entire thread just like I said in my excuses post.
I quoted Dio because it was one of the last posts and it was short, doesn’t mean I read him as a general rule though. But yes, I was still in the Cafe Society mindset when I went looking for the thread after seeing something on the news, it was a knee-jerk response, and thought I was just bringing up more news gossip to discuss and if it’s already been discussed in CS you usually get told about it without so much name-calling.
I compounded my mistake by explaining what I heard on the news report which I don’t have a cite for, sorry, because it was a televised report. I did this after realizing it had moved to the pit and should have just left it alone. I didn’t want to get into a pit fight so I asked for those posts to be ignored as I did not think them out. So yes, I am making excuses and asking you all to forget I was here. I had a fit of temporary insanity/bad judgement in posting at all and I do not wish to pursue any arguement beyond this last post.
Well technically she’s only half. The other half’s psycho.
Have they said where the boy (Oksana’s son) is? I hate to think he’s caught up in all this as well (though of course even if he’s in England he’s involved due to the news coverage and all, but that’s better than being there in person).
I don’t know if she’s a gold digger, and who cares. It’s truly irrelavant.
However, a case could be made that trying to never bring up the fact that one is a gold digger or prostitue or whatever when dealing with victims may actually be not good for victims who are indeed gold diggers and prostitutes.
In other words, if I were a gold digger, and then had something like this happen, I would like to fantasize that I would be brash enough to say, “Yep, I’m a gold digger and so the fuck what. I have a right not to have my teeth bashed in regardless, like any other woman, nun or prostitute.”
Also, it was genius of her to tape those conversations and keep them ready to protect herself from the mad man. I would have done the same thing.
Donald Trump’s current wife was asked on an interview show if she would be interested in him if he were a junior high principal instead of a billionaire. She responded “I don’t know… do you think he would be interested in me if I were a cocktail waitress instead of a super model?” I thought it was the perfect response.
MEL - “I bend over backwards with my balls in a knot.” - “that’s gold, Jerry. Gold!”
It’s clear from both of these calls that Mel’s main priority is blow jobs, and her main priority is the jacuzzi. And these priorities do not seem to mesh.
I really don’t understand the blow job rage. Clearly, Mel can get a blow job any time he wants from someone that would be discrete. So, the thing he demands is a blow job from her? BEFORE the Jacuzzi. Strange stuff.
Anyone know where I can find the audio tapes in order? I looked on Radaronline, but it’s such a fucking mess of a site, I can’t find anything but the latest tape.
At last this thread is in the the Pit and I can finally cut loose with my pent up vitriol!
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Personally I believe that in this instance Mr. Gibson has stepped over the line of proper propriety and the rules of civilized discourse. Further I find his seeming racial and gender views, as expressed in both this and in previous incidents, boorish and ill-considered.
What I’d like to know from Mr Aldo Whoever (purely out of curiosity) is whether the “gaps” in the tape could have been caused by transfers or edits by the person who leaked them, rather than Oksana herself. He doesn’t explain the technical details of what indicates tampering very well. He just essentially says “The tapes are tampered because there are these gaps and I’m the expert and I say so.”
If Oksana is a penniless harlot motivated by greed, where did she get all the money for the very professional, top of the line tape tampering? How was she able to keep that secret? It doesn’t sound plausible to me. Lots of people would have gone into tampering with that tape, if the tampering is as high quality, top of the line as Mr Aldo would have us believe. No one came forward?
But I admittedly don’t know much (read:anything) about tape tampering and recording techniques. I could be misinformed about some key point.
You might be interested in the link I gave to the video in post #292.
The gentleman the Today Show worked with is a forensic audio analyst who has worked for the FBI and CIA. He explains how he determines that they’re not edited or tampered with. The only breaks he detected were the ones where the conversation started and ended. By that he seemed to indicate for content as in they might have talked civilly about something totally different for 20 minutes and then here comes the crazy. Once the crazy starts, he says they are not edited and shows the measures he uses to determine that.
Clever, but let’s be honest: while Melania what’s-her-name would never fuck a junior high principal that looks like Donald Trump, he might well fuck a cocktail waitress who looks like her.
Ah, there it is. I kept looking at the right hand side. Those hyperlinks just blend into the rest of the pink and don’t stand out. Hideous looking website. Thanks!
The audio posted at radaronline is apparently a DVD that Oksana made from the tapes. The original tapes themselves are in the possession of the police. That means it’s pointless to try to divine anything about tampering from the radaronline audio.
The fact that the cops have the original tapes (and have made no accusations of tampering), and that Gibson himself has not denied their authenticity of makes speculations about their fakery kind of toothless.
I am not impressed at all by his wife’s denials that he was abusive, by the way. That is simply not credible. Guys don’t just become this way out of the blue in their middle age unless they develop a brain tumor or something.
The thing that makes me most suspicious about these recordings is that both Mel and Oksana are so patiently waiting for the other to finish their statements. A raging temper tantrum waits to go off at the permissible apropriate moment ?
Dio, you can’t pick and chose what you find credible or not. The woman was married to him for 20+ years, and you dismiss her as being not credible? Who in the world are you?
You clearly have issues with this subject, as do many of the posters in this thread.
I have a question or two for you:
Why is it not relevant to ask how long Oksana held onto the tapes?
did your mom stay with your dad (the abuser) for a long time, or did she leave right away?
is this why you don’t like the question of how long she held onto the tapes?
I personally think it’s something to consider. Does it mean Mel didn’t abuse her? Of course not. But if she was/is truly concerned about the health and welfare of her child, she should have never stuck around since January. You want to state unequivocally that Mel knocked out her teeth. If that’s true, why was she there the next day? I don’t like the line “she had nowhere to go”. That’s a cop-out line of all time. ANYWHERE is better than being with the abuser.
How you twist this question into the defense of an abuser is beyond me. But I don’t live in that world of yours. The black and white one where shades of gray don’t exist.