His oldest, Hannah, is 30. He was hardcore with her raising- she was schooled in a convent, even considered becoming a nun, but is now married and a mother. The only other daughter is the baby; the other six are boys (and I’m hoping for their sakes all of them are straight).
Well yeah, you do. Maybe he has a temper, maybe he is sweet as hell to you. Maybe he’s good at apologizing and you’re a pushover. And then you find out he’s abusive. And then you try to leave him, finally leave him, and get killed.
The difference is that she seems to be getting raked over the coals for something people claim they wish all women would do (and tends to be the most dangerous part of an abusive relationship) – leaving him.
I don’t recall saying they were. I only said Mel Gibson is not different, save for being famous. When the hoopies who moved in next door to me get to drinking, which since the weather is hot they do in the detached garage of an evening, they inevitably get to fighting. The whole neighborhood hears screaming, huffing and puffing, threatening, etc. Sometimes they also take to trashing each other’s belongings or one of them will try to assault the other. The only difference between them and the topic of this thread is that neither of them is a movie star (I don’t think either has a job at all).
So, unless the inbred son of the banjo next door (or his wife) is the most evilist, craziest, scariestest psycho alive, I’m not buying into Mel Gibson deserving the title either.
Like I said, it’s been fashionable to hate Gibson here for a while now. These recordings must be like chocolate-covered crack for those who indulge in that habit.
Is he a nice guy? I doubt it. Do I want him for a neighbor? No, got one just like him already. I’m just not ready to start calling him one of history’s great monsters yet,
Just like you don’t recall saying the situations were the same, I don’t recall anyone saying the things YOU are alluding too, either. See how that works?
Nobody said he was the “most evilist, craziest, scariestest psycho alive” nor did they say he was “one of history’s great monsters” so I’m not sure what the point of all that was.
In fact, I did say they were the same. I did not say they were okay. Please do pay attention to your reading before you respond to my posts in the future,
Ah, so you’re not going to respond to the fact that you just did what you wanted other people not to do? Selective responding, how very interesting
It’s also possible to believe that he’s a nutcase AND that she’s a golddigger, as evidenced by the fact that I believe both.
I’ve always wanted to see the genesis (chrysalis?) of a patented Sleeps With Butterflies “I am gonna look all over the SDMB for some trivial thread/post/poster/moderator to pounce on and then see how big a pissing match I can get into”…
Awwww, I’m glad you like to think about me but as much as it might dismay you to believe that I’m here to fight with you I really have to tell you that you’re fairly full of it. Still, I’m flattered.
It’s hardly novel to “pounce” on this subject. It’s fairly disgusting in and of itself without some of the people here trying to play “GOTCHA!” with their wording of parsing it. If you feel I’ve been unfair to your pal Scumpup, perhaps you can tell me how it’s okay for him to not tell the truth about the things Mel has been called all the while tsktsking people for not quoting him correctly?
MPB, knock off the personal remarks. If you have a problem with Sleeps, take it to the Pit. This isn’t the right place for it.
twickster, Cafe Society moderator
MPB in Salt Lake, please don’t make this into a personal dispute.
If someone criticizes you personally, please don’t respond in kind. If you want to have it out with each other, go to the Pit.
Yes, his troglodyte thinking has been overshadowed by his batshit insanity.
Yes, the reason that people hate Mel is that we want to be fashionable. It really has nothing to do with his drunken racist rants and alleged girlfriend beating.
Mel Gibson: “What are you talking about, you fucking ignorant bitch? I don’t understand you. You’re saying stupid shit! How dare you fucking insult me with some the stupid reasoning you have? Your logic sucks!”
Haha, he said her logic sucks!
I find it not at all surprising that Mel is reportedly an extremely devoted Catholic.
Not that Catholics are ragaholic nutjobs, only that it has been my observation that the very worst sort of behavior is often exhibited by the religious, much more so than agnostics or atheists. I speculate that it is because of their belief that they will be forgiven, but I don’t know. I only know my own observations that it seems to be true.
I wasn’t a Gibson hater. I defended him (somewhat) after the antisemitic tirade, and I’ve expressed admiration for his vision as a filmmaker. This puts it over the top for me, though. I can’t stand batterers.
:rolleyes: Or maybe, just maybe, he’s a raving bigotted nutjob? (Liam Neeson is also a devout Catholic, and yet I don’t recall him ever spewing crap like this.)
(BTW, he’s actually a Sedevacantist)
Really? Wow, THIS blows my mind.
I’m only 20-years old and I’ve experienced this. I had a screaming girlfriend who went on like this for a while, a screaming guy at the Gamestop I worked at and I’ve seen people doing this to each other a few times in my life.
That would be scary as hell since he’s 6’4 to 6’5 depending on shoes. Maybe he can fight Gibson and they can settle this religious divide they have.
Your consistency is almost touching.