I’ve heard couples in the middle of splitting up scream all kinds of horrible abuse and over-the-top threats at each other. There’s no reason for me to believe Mel Gibson is any different. It’s been fashionable at this board to hate him for several years now, and this really amps up the recreational outrage factor. Enjoy it. For my part, I figure he may well be just another angry, hollering man going through a break-up. He may not be, but I’ll let the legal system decide that. As for Oksana, her motives and actions don’t quite add up to “innocent Ukrainian girl” either. I’m perfectly willing to believe this tawdry story, like many, has no innocent victims.
I do have to say though that some part of me was moved by what is obviously Mel’s very real pain, which he verbalizes. It’s not possible to be that rage filled without it being fed by pain, whatever the source. I dont’ express my pain through rage, so it’s hard to really put myself in his place, but if I set the rage itself aside and just consider the intensity, then I do relate. I’ve hurt like that, so I do empathize with that part.
But still… to act out like that is absolutely unacceptable no matter what the reason. Hie thee to a therapist, man, daily sessions if that’s what it takes.
I did security at a club for a couple years. Some of the worst stuff I heard was from drunk women. When it comes to spitting & cursing there’s definitely equality between the sexes. 
Mel certainly needs some anger management classes.
Verbally? It’s really difficult to see how. I can see how it could get worse through violence or other actions, but words alone… this seems to me to be exactly as vicious as it is possible to be. I can’t even make up anything worse. I can make up things that are different, but not worse.
Perhaps we should start a thread? What could be said to a person that would be more vicious than Mel Gibson’s words to Oksana? Then vote.
Might be amusing. Sick, but amusing.
Bullshit. Fucked up sick bastards do that sort of thing. If any of you people seriously believe this is normal male behavior, either you are, yourself, a fucked up sick bastard, or you’ve been extremely unlucky with regards to your male acquaintances. Of all the men I know, very, very few would be capable of speaking this way to the mother of their child.
Except, obviously, the baby girl. 
Gibson’s huffing and puffing almost freaked me out more than his raging and filthy mouth. I had to quit listening to the tape.
Agree about the baby.
Mel Gibson calls Christian Bale
Well, you’ve gotta laugh at that at least 
What women want?
Lawyers.
:rolleyes:
People can accuse me of a whole lot, and they would be correct. But no one can correctly accuse me of being sheltered. I have seen it all. Domestic beatdowns, inner city shoot outs, crack head murders. I’ve seen it all. But I have never heard verbal abuse worse than that. On a scale of one to 10, that is a scary ass 10.
He was panting like an animal, using the most amped up language he could think of, obviously going for optimum ‘cunt’ and ‘nigger’ words, ones that I’m sure he feels are strongest. He laughs at her and mocks her when she expresses hurt that he would abuse her with their baby in her hands, he implies he will murder her, take a bat to her head and burn her house down. He attempts to humiliate her and demean her by repeatededly implying she is little more than whore there to suck him off. I mean, he really lays in heavy as I have ever heard.
My husband and I have had the kind of verbal confrontations that make the police get called by the neighbors. I have meditated hard to try to come up with things that would hurt him, and vice versa. But I think our worst knock-down drag outs would rate a 5 compared to the rage on those tapes.
No no no no no. To my ear, there is a huge difference between “I’m hurt and screaming awful things to upset you” and “systematic verbal abuse designed to terrorize”.
“You’re a cunt, you’re a whore, you suck in bed and you’re ugly”, I could pass off as just “oh, he’s hurt and no one’s innocent here”. It’s the addition of “you just smile and blow me”, the multiple ways he comes up with to tell her she’s stupid, the way he tries to get her to doubt her friends, “I own you”, etc that push it beyond the realm of simple lovers’ spat. All of those statements are designed specifically to take apart her confidence in herself and her life outside him and to punish her for not being subservient to his wishes. This is how abusers groom for beatings. When their target gets a little out of line and fights back a little, then they turn up the heat all over again, to re-groom for more beatings.
It’s truly disturbing to me that people are trying to use her sexual history and finances to justify what was clearly an abusive and unhealthy situation for her and that child. If this were say, Guy Ritchie recording Madonna behaving in this manner, no one would be using the fact that Guy Ritchie doesn’t have the fortune she has against him. No one would be tossing around names of people he slept with before. They would just be condemning the ball busting bitch. The reality is that no one has any right to treat anyone that way. Ever. Abusers should be given no quarter and there is no excuse for this kind of abuse. Most victims of abuse do not have the courage to leave, and she’s leaving. And taking a great deal of damage to her reputation in the process.
Eh. I intervened on enough domestic disputes and bounced enough drunk ‘n fightin’ hoopie couples that the only thing that looks different here is that one member of the couple is famous.
That hardly means that any of those instances was okay.
This is the same guy who in 2003 when Frank Rich wrote an article calling Mel’s father a Holocaust denier and implying Mel himself was antisemitic (this was before the incident said, ON THE RECORD, this about Frank Rich:
And that’s far from his only inflammatory or deathwishing comment. He’s bragged about the number of fights he’s been in and he’s denounced his wife’s religious views in the press when he was still popular. There’s no way she didn’t know the guy was deranged with major anger issues when she began dating him.
I’m not exonerating his behavior by any means- he needs to be locked up in a padded room somewhere for his own protection and for hers and for whoever else happens to be around him- BUT I also think he’s right in calling her a golddigger.
I wonder if he really and truly believes spiritual differences are what split up him and his wife incidentally. Actually I’m pretty sure he’s convinced himself of that.
VERY well said. Very.
I didn’t know any of those things, I guess it’s a good thing I’m not hot enough for Mel!
(well that and he’s way out of my age range and I wouldn’t have anyway but you get my drift)
None of those things telegraph that he would batter women, and I think the “golddigger” accusations are unfair since there is absolutely no way she could ever prove otherwise. It’s an accusation that requires no evidence to make and which no evidence can rebut. It’s not fair pool. She’s the one who’s been beaten and threatened and verbally berated. Why is it necessary to try to find some way to stick that one more needle in her? Absent any new evidence or information, I think she should just be regarded as DV victim, and that’s that.
Missed edit. His newest tape (released today) he says:
“You’re a fucking using whore…I own you,” and then "You don’t count.”
recording: EXCLUSIVE AUDIO: Another Mel Gibson Slur Caught On Tape In Crazed Rage - Listen To It Here
I just love Mel’s attitude about how women provoke rape by wearing sexy clothing. I wonder how old his daughters are.
It’s not just medication that Mel needs.
I think what you meant to say was “Michael Richards’ Nigger rant was just as objectionable as bitching about Jews in a drunken rage.”
What you wrote implies that neither action was objectionable.
As for watching Braveheart, this will make the final scenes a little more tolerable now.
I don’t care if those tapes are years old. It shows Gibson for what he is. Custody of his child? Never Supervised visitation only.