At post #103 I simply added my perspective on what I see going on in this most troubled world and, as far as I can determine, my comment is indeed germane to OP’s question. And from there someone took issue with that whom I maintain is at the heart of all the hostility … and I responded in earnest.
But oh well. No harm done, I guess. Why not? By all means, let’s divert this thread and make it all about you describing your very special relationship with Jesus and God.
kaylasdad99 might go ahead and take me up on my suggestion, so I’d rather let some time pass and see what happens with that. But thanks for your interest and, who knows, maybe I will eventually relate the incident, though some folks might take strong exception if I do.
If you read some of my other posts, you’ll find that I’m in agreement with even sven on this matter.
That I don’t buy (the part about it being solely other men, that is). The thing about social orders is that everyone participates, often whether they know it or not and whether they are the beneficiaries or not.
Put another way, if you just took the top male CEOs from media/fashion/etc. companies and replaced them with women, there wouldn’t be a bit of change. The problems are structural. Though perhaps it will change on its own when enough of the existing crowd die out.
I agree. My idea of equality is not to fix past wrongs, but to fix current wrongs.
It’s different. In the south, individual landholders that benefited from slavery had their slaves released. They whined, but fuck 'em, because they benefited for years from the system. They still ended up with a lot.
Here, though, the individuals in question never benefited from the old system. These aren’t 60 year old men complaining that they can’t treat their wives like shit anymore. They’re young men that got a shitty education and were dumped in an economy that can no longer run on undereducated workers, and were socialized in a way that doesn’t match reality.
Feel free to head over to GD with your testimony. I do not share your concept of the divine, and have no interest in running the experiment you have suggested.
Actually, I haven’t that any of them want want to be given anything. Or that they’re even asking for anything.
What I’ve read is that they’ve decided to make their own choices, based on what (they believe) is actually reality, rather than the fairy tales they grew up on.
Um. Of course she can. All she has to do is say she was raped.
Now I don’t want to go too far down that road. She has to be at least moderately convincing. She has to make sure the defendant wasn’t out of state, or has some other iron-clad alibi.
But any woman who actually has sex with a man can later decide she’s been raped. And with any luck, he’ll go to jail with a $200k+ bond. So he’d better have money, if he wants to get out again.
And of course, the mere accusation of rape can ruin a man’s life, even if it goes no where.
Just out of curiosity, what other thing do you think a woman needs to throw a man in jail for rape, other than saying she was raped?
Is this the case? I mean, I’ve heard lots of stories of people going to the police and being told that if it comes down to your word vs. theirs, you simply won’t win the trial, and get a great deal of reluctance and foot-dragging from the police in actually starting the investigation.
Does anyone have stats on this?
Also, does anyone else really want to sneakily arrange to double-book a campground with a MGTOW retreat and a lesbian separatist retreat at the same time?
I think a lot of it depends on who you are, whether the police are sympathetic, how long it’s been. But no, I don’t think that getting thrown in rape just because a woman says so is a realistic danger. Yes, there are some false reports of rape, but considering the obstacles women face when they try to report assault/rape, as well as the fact that so many rapes go unreported or unprosecuted, I don’t think think it’s really worth your time to worry about this. The idea that a woman might get mad at you and on a whim have you carted off to jail…it’s a little ridiculous.
Even if we were to sympathize with these men, what is the societal solution to their problems?
Are white men being discriminated against?
Or is it that everyone is now competing against them when they weren’t before, and they are just coming to terms with this?
I can actually sympathize with the resentment that comes from being taught one thing and being blindsided by the reality. I don’t personally feel that resentment. But I can imagine that if I’ve been bombarded with images of “me” ruling the world my entire life, I’d be feeling mighty bad if I ended up in a basement somewhere, with no sense of purpose or future. Maybe society needs to set more realistic expectations and stop filling people’s heads with Hollywood fantasies?
But Hollywood fantasies also inspire people to get out of the basement.
Maybe white guys need to see more images of failure or something. Living in a basement with three hots and a cot (and an internet connection) isn’t that bad in the grand scheme of things. Maybe if more people grew up in the inner-city projects or in the midst of rural poverty, they’d have a better sense of perspective.
