#METOO backlash

I presume you are aware of the fact thatmen are three times more likely to be murdered than women. Overall, men are slightly more likely to be the victim of a violent crime. The narrative that women are forced to lead their entire lives in continual fear of violence while men do not, is not true.

Like everyone, I wish for a society where all people, women and men, can go where they want to do what they want and not be afraid at any time of crime or violence. And I believe that sexual harassment is a serious problem. But hugely exaggerated claims of women being constantly in peril for their lives accomplish nothing.

That Texas lobbyist is a precious little bunny rabbit. If someone accuses you of wrongdoing when you are innocent you stick to your denial and the truth will win out. You don’t stop hanging around women (coworkers and friends) because you fear they will lie to the public about you harassing them. Ridiculous.

Which is complete bullshit. Even if the truth eventually comes out your life can be ruined. Ask the McMartin defendants.

Yes, because nobody’s life has ever been ruined by being falsely accused.

I don’t worry about it because there is nothing to be gained from falsely accusing me. However, if I had a more high profile occupation, I might feel differently.

Fine, you are free to do what you like. I know what I’m doing. And why couldn’t that woman in the story just take a different plane? Oh, yeah, because then there wouldn’t be a story.

Are you being sarcastic?

I just read about that case now. A tragedy for sure. (America, stop electing your district attorneys! It makes them do their jobs badly!) However, I think the women who remain silent about abuse vastly outweighs the McMartin cases, in terms of pure numbers (obviously) and in terms (sometimes) of horror).

…did the person who was discriminated against by the lobbyist for nothing more than being a woman falsely accuse somebody?

You mean men are on guard now. Women are normally on guard all the time. I’m not thrilled about it but I guess we’ve achieved a parity.

#MeToo is a social media creation. In real life, I worked until recently in an industry dominated by men, in a company run by Christians. They set the bar high for themselves and the people who work for them. There, you didn’t have to worry about how flirting, coarse language, innuendo or physical contact was going to affect someone else, because there wasn’t going to be any of it in the workplace. This was made very plain at the start. Amazingly, I don’t think anyone was confused or upset by this policy.

Wow. I’m stunned that you think this was a good idea. “What you did could be seen as a very sexist thing” is not that far from “Nice house you got there, shame if anything happened to it”. Situations like this is exactly why the guy in the OP left behind his female subordinate. It’s all to easy for innocuous things to be construed as sexist and given the environment I don’t have confidence that an accusation like yours would be dismissed.

No, I genuinely believe that if something is investigated usually the truth comes out. Or the accusations die down if nothing is found.

And what is a lobster even doing on a plane. The whole situation is preposterous!

That is just ridiculous. Yeah, we can go back to the days when women should just take their lumps and be quiet about it – no, I think we cannot. And that is a good thing. If two people are working together on a project, having a cloud of resentment hanging over them is going to boil up eventually and cause problems. ZipperJJ did the right thing to clear the air.

…its even easier for sexist things to be construed as innocuous. So what are you gonna do?

What do they say about war and best laid plans? They don’t survive contact because the enemy gets a vote.

Well if turns out the #metoo and #yesallmen crowd are discovering that the enemy gets a vote here as well.

…who exactly is the “enemy” here?

For starters #metoo and #yesallmen are not the same thing: it would be best that you not conflate the two.

Isamu: What, no reply?

Anyone who denies or minimizes the plight of others, or thinks that individuals can be dismissed because of group characteristics.

(Well, they’re the enemy of everyone, ultimately, even if they may ally themselves with some specific group.)

So I AM invisible!! I knew it!!

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…is that who you think AK84 was talking about? I’m not as sure as you. I’ll wait for their response thanks.