Michael Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, shows his sincere grief by attending the BET awards gala

Probably true, but doesn’t preclude him from molesting children. We don’t know.

[Modding]Tontines between members are probably prohibited by the Registration Agreement, so if we ever do find out for sure, neither you nor Diogenes the Cynic should try to collect on the bets of each other’s life.[/Modding]

You win the internet.

Maureen Orth, Diane Dimond and others have an agenda, I guess. They want to see MJ fail. They got their wish, eh? Well, Foofooforah for them. Nice.

Yes, they win the internets for being ignorant and stupid. Yay for you.

I don’t know about that – I think Janet’s actually better, but it seems Joe never really gave her as much shit as he did Michael.

God, not so much as, “my baby boy is gone.” Father of the year. :rolleyes:

So anyone who speaks out against him has an agenda or is ignorant, etc. And anyone who believes in him knows the truth. Okay.

In all honesty, is there anything bad you’d believe against him? Because even great, wonderful, saintly people have been known to make mistakes and do awful things. Or is everything dismissed as vicious, vicious lies against him?

One thing I can say with certainty is that many people who do abuse children get away with it precisely because of the whole “but so-and-so” would never do that. Look at how many young children Catholic priests were able to abuse, all because a man of the cloth would never do such a thing.

Oh honey yes I do believe MJ was inappropriate(don;t badger me about spelling, i don’t care) but i don;t believe he was ever illegal. For Christ sakes do you really believe MJ was a pedo? Bitch, please. Reslly.

Um, it was a joke from South Park I was laughing at, I don’t have a dog in your fight. Take the stick out of your ass, thanks.
(And just so we’re clear: I don’t think he did it either. Doesn’t mean I can’t laugh at a funny comedy show and a joke from it.)

I think that’s enough. I’m not issuing a warning, but you need to tone down the hostility.

Neither of us can say with any certainty what he is or isn’t. Do I know for sure he was a pedophile? No. I do strongly suspect based on the fact that he has admitted to sleeping with children in his bed, the physical closeness between himself and Gavin Arvizo in the Bashir interview, the fact that he associates not with children in general but specifically 10-13 year old males who he tends to drop when they get older, and the fact that the boys he goes for tend to have little financial resources/lots of dysfunction. I just personally don’t think it looks all that good.

Is it ever possible to bring up Michael Jackson without drudging up the pedo stuff.

( It is difficult, I know. But maybe, just this once stick to the discussion of Joe Jackson or the Jackson Family.)

Yeah well, see, I thhink Gavin nd his mother saw a golden goose and proffered somenomeny there
<stop, i;m done,

And now, according to CNN, Jackson’s parents are going to get custody of the kids. Poor kids.

StG

His mother and father have been separated for years since he cheated on her. I think the reason they haven’t divorced is that she is a very devout JH and probably doesn’t believe in divorce. He lives in Vegas, she in California with the rest of the family. I sincerely doubt Joe will be around the kids much of at all, if ever.

And she seems like a fairly normal individual. Compared to some of the others who could have custody of the children, that is.

Speaking of kids and family, has LaToya been seen yet?
How do we know she wasn’t the one that died?

I’ve just read the entire thread, and I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned yet, but your spelling is not great. You might want to give it some thought, if you haven’t yet.

Just out of curiosity, why do they “want to see him fail?”

Because he’s the golden goose. He;s easy. He bringgs a lotof this on himself. he’s a freak, but he is not a chikd molestor. Stop, I nam not in any way able to do thisd noe. Lster. Lster.