Michelle Obama as a candidate

As long as we’re making wishes, I’d like a billion dollars, tax free of course. That’s about as unlikely as getting major party replacement candidates. In the real world, the choice is between the incumbent, who has displayed competence and an ability to get legislation passed, and the prior officeholder, who has not.

Bless your heart.

I’m hoping for Jeff Jackson. He’s slightly older than those two at 41. His big hurdle right now is to remain in relevant political positions in North Carolina politics.

Trumps voice is stronger. The blabber coming out of his mouth is much much worse. I’m not talking about his politics or ideas. His incoherent ramblings show whats going on in his head.

Moderating
Watch the non replies that are basically insults.

I like Jeff Jackson a lot myself. I also like Gretchen Whitmer and Mallory McMorrow. My list of great future presidential candidates is pretty long actually. It doesn’t include Michelle Obama, because I believe her when she says she isn’t interested.

Yes, if he dies or is incapacitated, he will be replaced. That’s the only scenario.

It’s not going to come down to who “does well.” Both candidates are known quantities, and it will all come down to which way “independents” swing and GOTV. People who choose to vote for Trump will be voting for a known criminal and insurrectionist; debate performance, etc., is irrelevant.

Yep, she’s great–and not a politician.

You gotta be taking the piss with this.

C’mon, man. There would be the stink of loss of momentum and just plain loss on the Democrats with such a move. As an idea, it’s dumb as hell.

In the US? I was an ESL teacher for a year and have been a translator and interpreter for about 30 (Japanese). You strike me as being a very high-level non-native speaker (almost certainly European). For example, “carry any gaff[e]s” is not the correct idiom and not something I think a native speaker would say. etc. However, you could be a naturalized American, in which case I intend no insult (I am just not a huge fan of non-USians commenting on our elections, etc., without stating their status).

I’m not familiar with McMorrow. There’s a good chance future candidates aren’t even on the radar. Who could have predicted Obama? An inexperienced junior senator who not only is black but has a weird foreign name. Or Bill Clinton, a little known governor from a small mostly ignored state. When each of them started their campaign no one said “Yep that’s the next president.”

I agree, but …

TIME magazine could, and did, so not a good example. TBH I don’t remember if they were predicting a possible presidency, but after his famous speech at the Democratic convention, he was definitely on the radar as a rising star. I don’t think there are currently any such bright lights on the horizon.

This is good pushback against the “parties picking the candidates” trope. While one could make an argument for parties actually doing so (in contrast to the current primary system), recent history points to candidates who capture the electorate’s favorable attention.

Jimmy Carter is another example.

Clinton, too, got a prominent spot at the convention when governor (although he was criticized for speaking too long), so I think there is validity to people working up the ranks within the party.

I predict the next front runner is California governor Newsom. He’s got the right age (he’s currently 56), the good looks (at least when compared to typical politicians), and is well spoken; and image matters most. (Issues like policy mistakes or personal scandal will all be worked out later).

I thought that this was the point of the Democratic Party having superdelegates; they were party insiders who had more sway than the general electorate.

I always thought that this feature distinguished the Democrats from the Republicans, and was the reason why a Trumpian rogue couldn’t pull that off with the Democrats.

(Or did the Dems change their rules?)

I like Newsom, but I worry about the baggage of California’s perceived troubles. Whether real or perceived, or entirely imaginary, you can bet that Republicans will be throwing everything at him that they can dredge up, wildly distort, or entirely make up.

He’s a really good debater (as we currently define political debates). His verbal jujitsu is just amazing. One of the best politicians I’ve ever seen at dealing with gotchas.

I notice if we observe the last three presidential winners on the Democratic side (Carter, Clinton, Obama) they all were long-shots under conventional wisdom when they first came up, but they were not true total outsiders, they all had put in time in the lower rungs of elective office (and they all got a serving Senator as running mate). Meanwhile even the two VP candidates in that time period that were commonly seen as being especially weak, Republicans Quayle and Palin, did have elective office experience.

The only person to get into either ticket slot in living memory without ANY elective or appointed remunerated political or government-service experience, solely on the basis of celebrity power, is Trump.

Famous last words :grinning:. He’s got rather more than the average bear.

Still, you may be right on the front-runner thing. I will remain skeptical he can win until the day he’s ensconced in the White House, but stranger things have happened. He’s certainly smart, assertive and has the charisma and the debating chops for the campaign.

Somebody currently young has to be a future President. Bit not until they’re old. So not the next, or even next plus one, President.

The days of the USA electing 40yos to President are over for at least another 50 years and most likely forever

I’d bet large sums that you’re wrong about “another 50 years”… although I won’t be alive to collect.

Unless Trump wins and institutes a hereditary autocracy. That would make it possible that nobody alive today will be a future President because the title won’t exist in this darkest timeline until after Barron dies in 2100.

Nor I to pay off. Or collect as the case might become.

But it is an interesting topic. Perhaps a new thread is in order.

Because he’s running California. Economically, culturally, and demographically, whatever - California has got to be in the top 3 most influential states in basically any category you choose. People are paying attention to him.

A major challenge for any California politician is the belief by about half the country that California is a woke economic wasteland from which nothing good ever comes.

Well, except blockbuster superhero movies.