I knew there was a reason I didn’t like her! According to this site Michelle Obama basically declared that New York style pizza is better than Chicago Style! First she wasn’t proud of her country and now this. She is not a true Chicagoan, just like her husband isn’t an American citizen (he even liked pizza from St. Louis, of all places :eek: ).
Why, I bet she even puts :shudder: ketchup on her hot dogs and roots for the Packers.
Someone has to stop them before they ruin their daughters.
I was hoping this was a republican talking point.
I put mayo on my hotdogs. What does this say about me!? :eek:
You’re either a Libra, metrosexual, or colorblind.
I was going to report this to be moved, but you know what? Fuck it.
I’d rather hear some people bitching about pizza styles than yet another thread full of idiots poorly arguing politics that has to be here because of their utter lack of reasoning, self-control, and open-mindedness.
Note to all Chicagoans:
Fuck you and your stupid smarmy self-congratulatory claims about what hotdog condiments are acceptable. You’re eating a fucking mass-manufactured sausage made of lips and assholes, with the “gourmet” bright yellow mustard (Plochmann’s? Seriously?) and some fucking neon green relish that should not exist in nature. Bitching about ketchup at this point is just inane.
Also, fuck your “Italian beef”. It’s not Italian, it’s barely beef, and it’s pretty much just sliced meat with some garlic and a ton of salt; in effect, a poor man’s french dip. Get over it.
Finally, Chicago-style pizza isn’t actually pizza. It’s just a giant, messy, and sort of disgusting but still damn tasty pie. It’s good, yes. But hey, so is NY style, or St. Louis style (whatever the fuck that is), or whatever other style of pizza. Pizza is all good. Take Mr. Giordano’s pizza, and dick, out of your mouth, or at least stop crowing about how this fat pseudo-Italian guy in the 40’s tried to make pizza, except he fucked it up and made these pie things, which are actually pretty tasty.
By the way, I find it most amusing that with all these “styles” of pizza, the most common and nationally accepted pizza style is the Domino’s/Papa John’s/Pizza Hut/Little Caesar’s type. So apparently, America’s favorite pizza style is:
Wichita, Kansas style.
Think about that next time you want to talk about how everyone else’s pizza sucks.
She’s right.
That’s not to say Chicago-style pizza is bad. It’s nice, in that kind of home-for-the-holidays-when-you’re-all-grown-up-and-finally-realize-mom-was-a-lousy-cook-and-can-only-make-casseroles kind of way.
But real pizza was invented in New York, and will always be best there. You don’t go to Milwaukee for a cheesesteak and you don’t go to Paris for tapas.
Don’t go to Chicago for pizza.
To be fair, even though the pizza place was in St. Louis, it was a California pizza place.
St. Louis style is thin, yeastless crust, with cheese that is a combination of provolone, swiss, and cheddar, and is cut in squares instead of triangular slices.
It’s not very good.
I like how the link to the Sesame Street youtube video on the gothamist site has Elmo staring straight at the First Lady’s chest. What did she say next? “Up here, Elmo”?
Look, I’ll be the first to admit that there’s something weird about wanting a whole cucumber on your hot dog. And what the hell is the deal with celery salt? But if you think hot dogs are disgusting, it’s because you’ve been putting ketchup on them. Get a palate.
And marjoram, and oregano – that’s what makes it Italian, for whatever the hell that’s worth. Of course, a guy who doesn’t taste these can’t be expected to know what beef is either.
Given your stated inability to appreciate flavors on a hot dog that aren’t insipid, inability to discern spices or meat types, I’m not prepared to credit that you can accurately detect the presence of pizza.
Think about the fact that you’ve just confirmed that everybody else’s taste in pizza sucks? Okay, I’ll try to remember.
I’ll blaspheme and say that I’m a native New Yorker and I prefer deep dish Chicago style pizza. New York style is so thin and greasy. Blech.
Let’s look at your assumption here, the one that makes an ass out of… just U. You assume, wrongly, that I disagree with your choice of toppings.
I didn’t say I don’t like hot dogs, or even that I don’t like your eye-talian beef. But getting all militant over people’s “poor taste” in hot dog toppings?
Are you fucking serious?
Next, you’re going to have a goddamned Mountain Dew tasting and go on a crusade against the evils of Code Red, because Baja Blast is so clearly the superior beverage.
The problem, as you’ve so aptly demonstrated, is this pompous pretense that your provincial food choices are somehow the epitome of class and good taste.
Both of these are just fine. Hot dogs are made of donkey cock. If you meant ‘brats’ well…yeah, putting ketchup on them is unforgivable.
Chicago style, deep-dish pizza is tourist food. It’s nice for the occasional “god, I really want a gooey, heavy pizza” cravings, but I don’t know anyone here who eats it on a regular basis.
New York pizza is too thin. The usual pizza I see has a more moderate crust and just enough cheese to hold the toppings down and have a little stretch when you cut through it.
Deep dish? The best Chicago pizza is thin and greasy.
And you wrongly assume I take this issue seriously. Jesus Christ, you’re the one lashing out. What, were you force fed Vienna Beef in a gulag somewhere?
I’ll let you know when it actually leads to me getting a divorce. Otherwise, I’m sorry if I’m too strident for you sensitive nature, princess. I really feel more pity than contempt for people who don’t like the same things I do. Poor benighted bastards with what I presume are their small and malformed organs of generation.
The provincialism you point to is the very essence of the snobbery in question. How did you manage to miss your own point? Instead, let’s make that potato chips, Lays and Jay’s. For the subway series, I’m ready to fight about Jay’s vs. Vitners’.
I agree that Chicago style pizza is an abomination. However, 90% of the problem could be solved by changing the name to something else. The ‘pizza’ trademark is unofficially associated with something else and that not it especially when it is taken to extremes. I went to a wedding in Chicago for an old college friend once. We arrived on Friday night and went to a really big bar/pizza place. The shit they served must have been three inches thick and it was a casserole on steroids. It didn’t taste bad but four bites with a large fork must have taken me an hour to finish. I was lucky to have been able to eat any of the wedding for at all two days later but that was only due to fasting and purging.
Unfortunately, the bride married a nice Jewish boy in a dual Irish Catholic wedding ceremony. It was beautiful wedding but I knew what was coming at the reception and that the weight was going to be on my shoulders literally. I was working out hard at the time and that damned Jewish chair dance just about killed me. There were other guys who were supposed to be helping heave it up in the air with her on it for a few minutes but they got winded fast and faked it. I was left with a potential tragedy on my hands and gave it everything I had and pulled it off…barely before my muscles gave out and I almost collapsed from heat exhaustion. I went in the bathroom and threw up and was horribly sore the next day.
Fuck Chicago style pizza. It almost killed me very much indirectly.
I thought deep dish WAS Chicago? That’s what wiki says anyway, and any time I’ve ordered Chicago style pizza it was deep and thick.
We eat plenty of other crust styles of pizza here. That deep dish stuff is called “Chicago style” but let’s not forget that it was popularized by a couple of former Texans.
This makes absolutely zero sense.
count me as one of those who thinks its funny/sad/pathetic that people eating hot dogs (i.e. processed ass lips and entrails) feel that they have any standing to comment on others’ condiment choices
and NY style pizza is better than Chicago deep dish - just face the facts.
I like pizza in general, but if I had my druthers, I’d have a Chicago deep-dish, followed by the St. Louis style (although here in Columbus the cheese is generally provolone), then New York. I don’t like how burnt the crust is with most NY pizza.