[QUOTE=Beware of Doug]
OK, OK. Dealing with all you well-scrubbed information technologists is driving me nuts (and I’m not talking pirate talk when I say that).
I’ll use some other word processor next time I have to network with my ma. I’ve spent my last dime on Micropenis product anyway. AND THAT INCLUDES THE ASSGOBBLIN’ LICENSE FEES, which I have no intention of ever incurring liability for again.
Aaaaand I’m going to ask all my buds to give back my free CD burns of long-out-of-print 78s, too. If BMG/Sony wanted people to hear that stuff, it’d all be on sale in shrinkwrap at Virgin Megastore. Right? Riiight???
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Wait, this was a serious rant? I assumed you were being somewhat clever by talking like a software pirate on Talk Like A Pirate Day, instead of peppering your conversations with “Arr” as one would have expected from a stereotypical Treasure Island-type pirate.
[QUOTE=Dan Norder]
It’s not like you don;t see that on every messageboard for idiots out there. Too bad this one is supposed to be fighting ignorance, not bragging about living in it.
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That’s a misconception. The Straight Dope *column *by Cecil Adams is dedicated to fighting ignorance. This is the message board. The mission is different.
[QUOTE=Uvula Donor]
That’s a misconception. The Straight Dope *column *by Cecil Adams is dedicated to fighting ignorance. This is the message board. The mission is different.
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[QUOTE=Beware of Doug] Fucking Micropenis pinkboy authoritarian police-state cuntbag asslicking electronically-surveilling shit-encrusted balls of asshair.
Is there anything I can do about this besides paying the assbastards another exorbitant license fee?
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What, you thought the life of a pirate wouldn’t involve any hardships? Ye be an OUTLAW, with every man’s hand turned against ye, forced to live on yer wits an cunning alone, matey. It’s up to you to figure out how to avoid being strung up to the yardarm. Unfortunately, it looks as you have embarked on this battle of wits unarmed…
[QUOTE=Loopydude]
Arrrr there be! But no Pirate Edition, the dogs!
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I believe there are actually several different ‘special editions’ of MS products floating around on the Internet Seas which have, so to speak, been boarded in the smoke and converted to life under the Jolly Roger. They probably come with a few nefarious stowaways to boot, as well as an interesting selection of infections amongst the crew.
[QUOTE=Beware of Doug]
I installed Office 04 on 2 Macs: mine and my mom’s. Nothing says you can’t do that.
So my mom comes over to work on a project we’re doing, and we’re both using the same AirPort for internet. Meanwhile, I’m using Excel and she tries to boot up Word. And gets a fucking piece of shit error message saying “Too many computers are using this copy of Office. Word will now shut down.”
Is there anything I can do about this besides paying the assbastards another exorbitant license fee?
I mean, fuck.
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I can understand being pissed about that. For one thing he’s using excel, she’s using word. Different programs. However the license seems to be for the suite as a whole. Why one shouldn’t be able to use their copy of word on one computer and excel on another?
The only answer I can come up is it’s an excuse fro microdicks to force anther couple hundred out people’s pockets, and the common man gets told to put up or shutup.
Macrocunts cheated too, anticompetitive practices and all, and those greedy bastards would do it again too.
So high five doug man for screwing MS they deserve it. Bastards. The desktop os market variety still hasn’t recovered. Now take the screwage even farther. Don’t support ms formats. http://www.openoffice.org/ no hassle with cracks either
[QUOTE=Dan Norder]
Hey, look, an ignorant jackass PC user showed up to spout off “I paid less for my piece of crap, virus-loaded, spyware-sucking, bluescreen of death computer but will be paying far more than what I saved in aggrevation, grief and taxes on stupid people, so I am jealous of Mac owners for not having to deal with that and will ridicule what I am too stupid to understand” bullshit, surprise surprise. It’s not like you don;t see that on every messageboard for idiots out there. Too bad this one is supposed to be fighting ignorance, not bragging about living in it.
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Psst: I don’t use Windows. I’m not jealous, just smug.
[QUOTE=oy vay]
The only answer I can come up is it’s an excuse fro microdicks to force anther couple hundred out people’s pockets, and the common man gets told to put up or shutup.
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Ah, good old The Common Man. Not seen him in ages. I weep for him, I do, sat at home with his brand-name wireless internet shininess, unable to install a large and capable productivity suite on both of his thousand dollar plus machines, despite really wanting to. Truly, it is the very shaft.
[QUOTE=Dan Norder]
Hey, look, an ignorant jackass PC user showed up to spout off “I paid less for my piece of crap, virus-loaded, spyware-sucking, bluescreen of death computer but will be paying far more than what I saved in aggrevation, grief and taxes on stupid people, so I am jealous of Mac owners for not having to deal with that and will ridicule what I am too stupid to understand” bullshit, surprise surprise. It’s not like you don;t see that on every messageboard for idiots out there. Too bad this one is supposed to be fighting ignorance, not bragging about living in it.
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Don’t look now Dan but you’re showing symptoms of foot-in-mouth disease.
Out of curiosity, what iLife app is used for word processing? I use Text Edit for basic stuff, but I’m not aware of anything that’s anywhere comparable to Word that comes installed on new Macs.
Sorry, I misspoke. It’s iWork, and the app. is Pages. And though it is bundled with new Macs, it’s only a 30-day trial vsn., it would seem. The full vsn. of iWork costs about eighty bucks. A “Family Pack” a hundred. Dumbass meself, arrr!
[QUOTE=oy vay]
I can understand being pissed about that. For one thing he’s using excel, she’s using word. Different programs. However the license seems to be for the suite as a whole. Why one shouldn’t be able to use their copy of word on one computer and excel on another?
The only answer I can come up is it’s an excuse fro microdicks to force anther couple hundred out people’s pockets, and the common man gets told to put up or shutup.
Macrocunts cheated too, anticompetitive practices and all, and those greedy bastards would do it again too.
So high five doug man for screwing MS they deserve it. Bastards. The desktop os market variety still hasn’t recovered. Now take the screwage even farther. Don’t support ms formats. http://www.openoffice.org/ no hassle with cracks either
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Think about it. He didn’t buy a copy of Word and a copy of Excel. he bought and installed a copy of Office which includes Word and Excel. One license not two. If he had bought 2 stand along programs (1 Word and 1 Excel) and installed them, there would be no rant. Since then there would have been two licenses not one.
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Rick]
Think about it. He didn’t buy a copy of Word and a copy of Excel. he bought and installed a copy of Office which includes Word and Excel. One license not two. If he had bought 2 stand along programs (1 Word and 1 Excel) and installed them, there would be no rant. Since then there would have been two licenses not one.
:rolleyes:
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If you’d get off your high horse end look at the bigger picture I was encouraging him to use a legal product legally.
But that aside if I buy a computer and decided I want to chop it up and use it’s vid card in one computer and it’s disk drives in another why shouldn’t I be able to? Only serves to make you buy the whole package twice. Similar to the RIAA putting one really good song on a cd with a bunch of crappy ones so you gotta buy the whole the whole thing just to get what you want. Money grubbing bastards especially considering how they tend to screw most of their artists who actually make the music.
oh and finally I acknowledge the point of them being licensed as a suite, so your post just shows a lack of reading comprehension.
[QUOTE=oy vay]
If you’d get off your high horse end look at the bigger picture I was encouraging him to use a legal product legally.
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Was that the bit where you said, “[s]o high five doug man for screwing MS they deserve it”? Cos that sounded more like you were congratulating him for using a product illegally. Unless you’re making up your own definition of “legal”.
Er, you can. But you can’t install two copies of software you’ve only paid for once. It’s the kerrraaazy new mathematics, man. Here, though; just for you, I’ll give you two full stops for the price of one. Don’t eat 'em all at once..
p.s. If the albums you buy have shit tracks on them, you’re buying shit albums. Get better taste.
[QUOTE=Dead Badger]
Was that the bit where you said, “[s]o high five doug man for screwing MS they deserve it”? Cos that sounded more like you were congratulating him for using a product illegally. Unless you’re making up your own definition of “legal”.
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Yeah actually I was, then I turned that into encouragement for a legal action (using open office). You see my subtle ways now? Cause quite frankly you’re acting drone-ish.
excel and word are the same program? :dubious:
Not an issue anymore with the modern net, can usually even get em legal now However back in the day you wanted some tune they usually bundled it with a bunch of crap tunes so you’d either pay $14 for a bit of gold and pile of crap or $8 for a single. Couldn’t just sell decent singles seperatly for maybe $2, of that $8 for a single the disc cost maybe 25 cents, and the artist usually gets less then that
[QUOTE=oy vay]
excel and word are the same program? :dubious:
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The OP had only installed word on one computer and excel on the other, had he? Er, no. He had installed two copies of the whole shebang on separate machines. It doesn’t matter that at the precise time of the warning message, two separate parts of that package were being used; it’s the installation that counts. Read the licence.
Funny how despite your concern for the poor mistreated artist, they all still rush for record deals as soon as they can. Even internet phenomena like the Arctic Monkeys and Lily Allen seem to end up on labels in this apparent penury. It’s almost as if the record labels offer them something of value. Crazy, I know, but there it is. Thing is, if these labels are taking such obscene margins and screwing the artists, it ought to be an absolute cinch for you to enter the market with a label that offers great conditions to artists, yet sells albums cheap and still turns a profit. And yet, nobody has spotted this glaring opportunity! Except you, of course. Maybe (maybe) there’s more to it than the raw cost of the disc?
Yeah, me and my insane ways, thinking that people should pay for what they use. I should probably rock my capitalist pig-dog paradigm, break with the New School or some shit like that. Information wants to be free, maaaaan.
[QUOTE=oy vay]
excel and word are the same program? :dubious:
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IF Excel and Word were purchased separately, they would have had separate keys and using them at the same time on the different computers, even if installed contrary to the EULA, would not have been “caught” and halted.
However, the software in question is Office - sold as a suite; i.e. part of the same program. That’s already been explained once.
The record company, the artists, and the producers decide which tracks go onto the CD, not the RIAA. Quite frankly, you’re a fucking dumbass.
[QUOTE=oy vay]
But that aside if I buy a computer and decided I want to chop it up and use it’s vid card in one computer and it’s disk drives in another why shouldn’t I be able to?
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Just as well you can then, isn’t it? And just a shame that that analogy has no bearing at all to the subject at hand.
Sorry if it pisses people off that they have to pay for software licences, but tough shit. I write software, and I like to set the prices for the programs I create. Seem fair to you? If not, then use someone else’s software.
Fuck me, it’s not often I’d feel obliged to defend MS but just how lame a rant is this? A single license only lets you run one copy at a time. What a huge injustice that is. What an absolute shocking state of the world, that someone would have to use a freely available alternative such as openoffice if they don’t want to pay, rather than Microsoft’s product. Just who the fuck does MS think they are to want to set the price and conditions for use of their software.?
