Middle class leaning Pub for economic interests -- even though data show that's wrong

John Judis, co-author of The Emerging Democratic Majority (2004), now writes about “The Emerging Republican Advantage.” Interview here. In Judis’ view, the main reason is that the Dems are losing the middle-class vote (defined as persons with college degrees but no post-graduate ed).

Funny thing, though – if the middle class votes Pub because of economic self-interest, that means they are misperceiving their economic self-interest, as economic data show.

What can the Dems do about that?

Or perhaps they vote for the America they want to live in one day, and haven’t given up on their dreams of becoming successful.

ETA: The democrats would do well to pivot away from the the academia-style policies (LGBT issues, discrimination, everything you hear Fox news screaming about) and double down on policies that actually help middle class and working class voters.

It seems kind of silly to look at growth rates under presidents - I don’t think they have nearly the influence over economy, taxes, and policy as people seem to assume they do.

As far as what the Dems need to do, it’s the same as always: explain why your policy is superior to the other guy’s. Basically, you need a good policy, a good speech-writer, and a lot of charisma. And the policy is probably the least important of the three.

I don’t think you want to get into a debate about whether the data your using is the relevant metric. That just doesn’t win votes.

“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

– John Steinbeck

IMHO, at a very high level (this discussion being just one example), the Republican party is more effective at “messaging”. Yes yes, we would like to think that most people use rational thought, facts, evidence, self-interest, etc., when choosing a candidate or party - but that is simply not the case. Instead, most people rely on non-rational reactions to make decisions: hopes and desires being important, but fear being most important of all. The Republican party knows better how to craft messages that resonate with the non-rational part. I’m not saying the Democratic party is completely lacking in this, just that they are less adept overall.

Quit letting the Teabaggers set the narrative.

Still, one hopes it might be the case, to some limited extent, when addressing the college-educated middle class.

Right off the bat, he gets something terribly wrong.

The Colorado result surprised no one. Once the campaign started to get into high gear (late summer) almost every poll had the Rep with a healthy lead, even the Democratic internals. The election pretty much matched the polling - if anything, the Dem did a little better than expected.

Meanwhile, the other author, Ruy Teixeira, writing in November 2012, feels vindicated.

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Funny thing, though – if the middle class votes Pub because of economic self-interest, that means they are misperceiving their economic self-interest, as economic data show.
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The economic data don’t quite show what you say they do. First of all, your source only compares economic data from Republican and Democratic presidential terms. It doesn’t look at the effects of Congressional control, or local control or anything else.

Then, if you actually click through the Salon article to the Washington Post article with the charts, you’ll see that they show growth at the 40th and 60th percentiles during all Republican administrations except Dubya’s. So the middle class did well under Nixon/Ford and Reagan/Bush; the lowest quintile maybe not so much.

It’s worth remembering that most folks don’t really care about “economic inequality”. They care about wealth and income. The average person never computes a Gini coefficient in his or her lifetime, nor has any reason to. He or she wants a good personal financial situation, not lower income inequality.

OTOH, the worse off people get, the more they notice and resent the 1%. OWS didn’t come out of nothing, and no radical ideologues planned the whole thing in advance.

Middle-class Americans resent the Welfare State, because they fund it but get nothing from it.

They are the ones working full-time and being responsible. The Dems think bleeding-heart policies will win the middle class; it never well.

Thus they resort to demonizing the rich and race/gender warfare.

What can Democrats do? Pursue Clintonian economic policies, which have been proven to work: balanced budgets, free trade, cutting the size of the government workforce, reducing the regulatory burden, welfare reform…

Voters aren’t stupid. When the Democrats have pursued a genuine middle class agenda, as Bill Clinton did after the 1994 shellacking, they vote Democrat. When Democrats focus on special interest politics, a little for Latinos, a little for African-Americans, a little for women, a little for students, a little for unions, they tend to do pretty well among those groups but lose the broad middle class. Because all those little benefits and favors are usually paid for by the middle class.

From the (2nd) article linked in the OP:

“Welfare reform” has been done, under Clinton; why is any more needed? And the government workforce proportional to the population has been reduced under Obama. And there has not been a time since 2008 when balancing the budget would have been a good idea. The “regulatory burden” as it is apparently is not enough to ensure fracking will be done safely (if it even can be). As for “free trade,” less said the better, but getting it we are, good and hard.

See post #14.

Your post did bring up an interesting point: the “submerged” government. People tend to notice government when it’s not working rather than when it is. The solution there is for Democrats to focus like a laser on customer service in government, rather than the callous treatment we usually get from those who supposedly serve us. Sometimes they even act like they rule us rather than serve us.

Don’t squander these brilliant ideas on the Dems! Offer them amongst the Pubbies, and they will spread like mildfire!

The Republicans could stand to concentrate on making government work better too. Given the Democrats’ insoucience about the issue, it never hurts to be the party of effective government.

Congratulations on your thesaurus purchase. Now do you have any evidence that
a) government doesn’t work
b) Democrats are indifferent to what doesn’t work