if genuine, Hodwain has an important diplomatic mission (if not, we certainly don’t want to go into the orc lair with him)
we don’t know enough about the Vampire (it’s not Undead; it may use magic etc…)
the orcs don’t know we are here
Therefore we should now accompany Hodwain to Minas Tirith, introduce him to the right people, learn all we can about the Ancient Being and then return here to kill it.
What do you all think of this plan?
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I agree but with just one thing I would like to do first if you don’t mind.
Let me check out the lair tomorrow morning to make sure they have no captives from overnight to feed to the creature.
If they have nothing, then I have no problems returning to Minas Tirith
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]
Thoroncir grimaces. “We may be leaving some who are not orcs at hazard in this region by leaving now; the orcs will also have the opportunity to reinforce their lair. I still think we should stay and attack; with Hodwain’s help, if he’s willing to give it.” He sighs. “But as ever, I will abide by the orders of Gil-Gandel or Ghan.”
I sense the GM’s hand in glee’s most recent post. :dubious:
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Ghân takes your point about possible orc captives and gratefully accepts Mulligan’s offer to scout for them. Do take Elfstan (but please don’t both go Invisible!)
Of course I read the GM’s posts carefully, but I certainly wasn’t ‘speaking for him’! Note that Ghân was suspicious of Hodwain, wouldn’t drink the Mead of Life, didn’t like the two Scouts both being Invisible and didn’t accept Riglo’s suggestions to hit the lair or attack a raiding party. Why … Ghân is practically a gadfly!
Once we’re traveling, could I please bug Ghan to [COLOR=Blue]grow Miron some of those paralytic plants? The solution won’t be as effective on arrows as on darts, but every little bit helps.[/COLOR]
Elfstan is more than willing to return to the orc lair with Mulligan. He’s happy to be taking action again. If he wasn’t still invisible, he would seem somewhat fidgety.
“Mulligan and I seem to function and cooperate just fine with us both invisible. We’re getting lots of practice!”
“If we are to leave, let us leave,” Thoroncir says. “I see no particular value to having the Hobbits return to the orc-lair so soon after they have already been there. Although I commend their courage and their willingness to go on another scouting expedition, I think it puts them, even while invisible, in unnecessary danger for little gain.”
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]
“If we are to leave, let us leave,” Thoroncir says. “I see no particular value to having the Hobbits return to the orc-lair so soon after they have already been there. Although I commend their courage and their willingness to go on another scouting expedition, I think it puts them, even while invisible, in unnecessary danger for little gain.”
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Ghân: The objective is to find if there are captives there that need immediate rescue.
If not, the hobbits could still find where the entrances and guard posts are.
[QUOTE=Omi no Kami]
Once we’re traveling, could I please bug Ghan to [COLOR=Blue]grow Miron some of those paralytic plants? The solution won’t be as effective on arrows as on darts, but every little bit helps.[/COLOR]
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DM, if we wait for the hobbits to scout, is there a chance to [COLOR=Blue]Plant Growth this for Miron?
Does Ghân think it will work on arrows?[/COLOR]
DM, if we wait for the hobbits to scout, is there a chance to [COLOR=Blue]Plant Growth this for Miron?
Does Ghân think it will work on arrows?[/COLOR]
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Ghân can think of no way to make it work on arrows at this point. You could plant and then [COLOR=Blue]Plant Growth whenever you like.
The party seems to be arguing the night away at this point. I’ll let this ride until the afternoon (EST) but it needs to move forward with a firm decision/plan. [/COLOR]
[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Ghân can think of no way to make it work on arrows at this point. You could plant and then [COLOR=Blue]Plant Growth whenever you like. [/COLOR]
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Ghân: OK, I’ll stick with making Goodberries then. Bad luck, Miron.
[QUOTE=What Exit?]
The party seems to be arguing the night away at this point. I’ll let this ride until the afternoon (EST) but it needs to move forward with a firm decision/plan. [/COLOR]
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3 votes for further hobbit scouting, 1 against (and he’s an obliging chap!).
We’re a smooth group.
[QUOTE=glee]
Ghân: The objective is to find if there are captives there that need immediate rescue.
If not, the hobbits could still find where the entrances and guard posts are.
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Just a reminder…
Elfstan politely reminds Ghan that we have found 3 entrances and also know where there are likely three more (the other three blinds/lookout posts). We located four lookout posts when we scouted the outside.
It might be time for a show of hands for who is still following this. It’s been a while since we’ve heard from about half of the party.
Here and waiting. Deor is inclined to try a quick raid, but cooler heads (like my own) will probably cause him to vote for a return to Minas Tirith to gather information.
Thoroncir says, “If they are to go back at all, either Gil-Gandel or Miron would probably be best-suited to escort them and remain undetected. Perhaps better to wait until the morning, as the day now draws to a close and the vampire may be roaming tonight.”
[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Riglo, “How will the Hobbits go back in and who will escort them and will it be tonight or first thing in the morning?”
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We will be doing the following. Both going invisble, using the new entrance we found that is only just big enough for a hobbit and merely checking the larger areas to see if the Orcs gained any captives last night. If you want to try and escort us through the caves you are welcome to try.
And we will be doing it first thing in the morning, when the Orcs are at their sleepiest and we will know whether they have a victim or if they have to give up one of their own.
I suggest we all get a good night’s sleep, we should not be more than an hour in the Caves and we can be on our way back to Minas Tirith before mid-morning.
Ghân is happy with Miron escorting the hobbits for a final check of the orc lair for captives; followed by all of us escorting Hodwain back to Minas Titirh (where we gather information on the Being).
