Military rankings

i apologize in advance for this fairly broad question…

but here goes…

what are the origins of the different ranks in the military.

ie. captain, colonel, admiral

i guess this is more a question of word origins

thanks

Captain

Colonel

Admiral

It’s amazing what you can learn by picking up a dictionary (etymologies above from Merriam-Webster). I know there are a lot more ranks, but I think you can check them out for yourself – cutting, pasting and reformatting isn’t that much fun!

as per the first reply;;

yup, my mistake. i should’ve checked the dictionary first before posting.

sorry

just didn’t clue in till reader tipped me off

thanks

Here’s some more. There may be some inaccuracies, but at least I don’t have to look anything up.:slight_smile:

Lietenant - Means, basically, second in command, assistant. The lietenant was originally the man who helped the captain run the company (from the 16th century, the basic unit of warfare).

Major - Short for Capitan Maior, Spanish for senior captain. Usualy referred to the most experienced captain in any regiment.

Colonel - As far as I know, this does not refer to “column” but to “coronet”, or crown, a figurative or actual symbol of rank; I may be mistaken.

Brigadier General - The commander of a brigade (today brigades are usually lead by colonels).

Major General - Short for Segeant Major General (in case you were wondering why he was beneath the Lietenant General).

General - from “general officer”. Simple as that.

General of the Armies - At the beginning of WWII, the president wished to appoint the US’s first Marshal (a common European rank). Unfortunately, the leading candidate was General George Marshall. Military honor outweighed certain humerous possibilities, and so the title was changed.

As for non-com and naval ranks, I have no idea. Anyone?

No worries, Peppy. I hope you find what you’re after!

I thought a “lieu tenant” was a place holder.

WARNING: I HAVE NO MILITARY CONNECTION. THIS IS JUST STUFF I HAVE READ SOMEWHERE

From what I understand about military rank, there were, historically, 5 basic ranks: private, seargent, captian, colonel, and general; basically each rank commanded a larger group of troops, the private of course commanded no troops. Additional ranks were added as it became apparent each needed “assisstants” for their jobs, thus the corporal assists the seargent, the lieutenant assists the captain, the lieutenant colonel assists the colonel and the lieutenant general assists the general. Then the assistants needed assistants, and the seargent major assists the lieutenant, the major assists the lieutenant colonel, and the major general assists the lieutenant general. Other ranks (PFC, Brig. Gen.) were added as needed.

For the record, I had always heard that the Major was a shortened version of “major colonel” and that a seargent major was really a “major captain” except as an NCO, he has to be a seargent, not a captain. Could be wrong tho…

NOT IN ORDER!
Admiral-1.the commander in chief of a fleet 2. a naval officer (go figure) 3.a naval officer of high rank: the grades of the U.S. NAvy ae admiral, vice admiral, and rear admiral derived from some odd language meaning commander of the fleet.
Ensign-1. U.S.Navy. The lowest commissioned officer, ranking next below a lieutenant, second grade, equal to a second lieutenant in the Army,derived from the name from the flag, to show leadership and honor
Commander-U.s. Navy an officer ranking below a capt. and above LT.CMDR. Name taken from from a cheif officer of a medievil order of knights
As for E-6 and below:
Seaman- obviously “Sea Man” (E-1-E-3)
Petty Officer (E-4-E-6)- an enlistd man inthe navy holding an official rank corresponding to that of a non commissioned officer in the army. A literal “Petty” Officer
Chief Petty Officer- S/a/a but above E-6 below E-7 next in line is Senior Chief and Mater Chief of the Navy. After that is Flag officers and they are men/women who joined the Navy as enistedd and then after Master Chief switched to Officers
They are:
Warrant Officers- men holding one of four grades in the Navy ranking above enlisted men and below commissioneed officers. They are literatly “warranted officers”
OK?
OK!

Officer rankin in the US Airforce, Army and Marines:

General of the ( army, navy) (only in wartime) five stars
General: 4 stars
Liutenant General: 3 stars
Major General: 2 stars
Brigadier General: 1 star
Colonel: Eagle
Lt. Colonel: Silver oak leaf cluster
Major: Gold Oak leaf cluster
Captain: Two Silver bars
1st Lt.: one silver bar
2nd Lt. One gold bar

As far as naval ranking goes, Their are five differnt ranking of Admiral (not sure about the order) and then
Captain: 4 Stripes
Commander: 3 stripes
Lt. Commander: 2 wide and one narrow Stripe
Liutenant: 2 stripes
Liutenant Jr Grade: one wide, one narrow
Ensign: one stripe.

Here’s what I remember as being the structure in most of the British army regiments: Private, Lance Corporal, Corporal, Sergeant, Staff/Colour Sergeant, Company Sergeant-Major (WO2), Regimental Sergeant-Major (WO1), 2nd Lieutenant, Lieutenant, Captain, Major, Lieutenant-Colonel, Colonel, Brigadier, Major-General, Lieutenant-General, General, Field Marshall.

OK, so it doesn’t answer the OP, but someone might be interested.

Cute story, but the first (and only) U.S. General of the Armies was John Pershing during WWI. It was meant to be a rank above a 5-star general (aka General of the Army). Pershing only wore five stars in any case.

Actually, before Pershing, the highest rank in the U.S. Army was “General;” the 4-star variety. Pershing was created “General of the Armies” so that he would be equivalent to the European “Field Marshall” and would thus not be outranked by European commanders of supposedly equivalent importance. If you look at ** android’s** list of British ranks, you see that there are 5 classes of General Officer. Before Pershing, the U.S. only had 4 classes of General Officer. He was apparently offered a 5th star, but declined to wear one.

In the U.S. only 9 men have ever worn 5 stars (though they filled 10 positions). They were all but three created towards the end of WWII to recognize generals and admirals who had achieved a higher level of importance in the campaigns.

The ranks of “General of the Army” and “Admiral of the Navy” were created in December, 1944 and first awarded to George Marshall, Douglas MacArthur, Dwight Eisenhower and Henry Arnold in the Army (Arnold was the head of the Army Air Corp, an important point below), and Wiliam Lehey, Ernest King and Chester Nimitz in the Navy.

William Halsey was made a 5-star Admiral in December, 1945.

Upon the creation of the Air Force in June, 1949 Henry Arnold was named “General of the Air Force”, the Air Force’s only 5-star general and the only man to be a 5-star officer in two brances of the service.

Omar Bradley was named the nations last 5-star General in September, 1950. He was also the last living 5-star general, having died in 1981.

Since 1950, no one has been named to that rank, even though it is still an official “rank”

A list of supreme U.S. commanders (those of 5 stars) is listed at:

No one has bothered to give a link to what an obscure columnist said on this topic.

I should also note that at one time, the US Army had the rank of ensign for the lowest officer rank. I think this was before they created the rank of 2nd Lieutenant. Anyone know the history of this?

And in Nelson’s Navy, the ranks were: Midshipman, Lieutenant, Commander*, Captain, Commodore*, Rear Admiral, Vice Admiral, Admiral.

The starred items are temporary courtesy ranks. A commander is just a lieutenant placed in command of a vessel, and a commodore a captain placed in charge of several ships, both usually for a single voyage.

The fleet was divided into three squadrons, White, Blue, and Red, each of which had the three admirals.

Also: Depending on linguistic/military tradition, you may have ended up in the same place by different routes:

In some Central European countries you have General Officer Ranks that match exactly the Field Officer ranks – Colonel General, Lieutenant (Colonel) General, Major General. These armies do not have a Brigadier/BG rank.

In countries with a Latin tradition, you have General and Lieutenant General, in their case deriving from Captain-General (which was just the title of the Supreme Commander) but then the next ranks are called “Division General” and “Brigade General”; some like France actually designate the upper ranks as “Army General” and “Corps General”.

In some countries (mostly Latin, but including Ireland), the usual title of the rank between Captain and LTCOL is Commander, but in some latin lands you also see Major, from the old Capitán-mayor. Mexico, interestingly, has kept both Capitan-mayor as well as the modern rank of Major.

The RAF were just Brit enough to see it fit to take their job descriptions and turn them into “ranks” (Group Captain, Squadron Leader, Pilot Officer…)

And of course, whoever aided your emerging country to organize its army, that’s the system you’re gonna use whether they make sense or not.

jrd