I.e., the reverse of the Honor Harrington novels or Pournelle & Stirling’s Prince of Sparta series.
Are there any?
(Star Wars doesn’t count because the Rebels have no clear political or social agenda beyond destroying the Empire.)
I.e., the reverse of the Honor Harrington novels or Pournelle & Stirling’s Prince of Sparta series.
Are there any?
(Star Wars doesn’t count because the Rebels have no clear political or social agenda beyond destroying the Empire.)
Sure they do. They’re pro-democracy. That was pretty hammered home in Revenge of the Sith.
The rebels don’t even exist yet in Revenge of the Sith. Also, it’s unclear whether the later Rebels have any plans for a new form of democracy that would avoid the systemic problems that caused the Old Republic to self-destruct. And there’s no indication at all they’re socialists or leftists of any kind. (The Emperor, OTOH, could be viewed as a Stalin figure – or Pierre or St. Just of the People’s Republic of Haven.)
The Harrington spinoff book Crown of Slaves, and the two related short stories by Eric Flint, From the Highlands and Fanatic. The last few books of the Harrington series itself, to a degree - the new Republic of Haven are also the good guys.
The Culture novels by Iain M. Banks; they are socialists, at least as far as our terms stretch to fit them, even if they aren’t revolutionaries.
Star Trek, possibly; there’s debate over whether or not the Feds qualify as socialists.
1632 and sequals by Eric Flint.
Well…some of them, maybe. Not Grantville by any means. But I suppose you could characterize the Ram Rebellion as being quasi-socialist. I’ll bet Wallenstein is having none of that in Prague!
I’m thinking more about Gretchen and the Freedom Arches. As for Grantville - well, by the standards of the time they are revolutionary and socialist.
And unlike S.M. Stirling’s Nantucketers, they’re union men!
In Firefly, the Browncoats are the crushed revolutionaries and the good guys.
StG
Jeez!
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, man. Cell based organization?
Sure the rebels exist - only politicians and no military, but they are founded and exist. That was the point of the whole “don’t make waves, act like good little senators, we’ll work from behind the scenes” bit, and to a lesser extent presenting that petition. And I’m not suggesting they have plans for any particular type of democracy, or that they’re pro-Democratic-Party-style positions, only that they’re pro-democracy (and anti-tyranny).
Beyond Socialist, I think. They’ve perfected the means of production for a start.
starts flicking through das Kapital
For that matter, how about the perfect communism of Stranger In A Strange Land?
Or the people at Callahan’s. They are definitely revolutionaries, and they are definitely communal.
Weapon by Robert Mason.
There’s Spain Rodriguez’ Trashman, if comic books count. “Trashman: Agent of the Fifth International!”
In Harry Harrison’s “Bill, The Galactic Hero” series the revolutionaries tend to be the good guys.
As for the Culture novels, the impression I got was that the Culture was so wealthy that no one really worked at a job, aside from perhaps the occasional poor soul caught up in Special Contact work. And they typically weren’t full members of the Culture. Heck, a lot of the lower-end AIs were citizens as fully endowed with rights as their human “owners.”
wanna buy a Runagate Rampant, anyone?
Revolutionaries, but it’s clear they’re not socialists. The situation in that book appears to be the equivalent of a gulag uprising in the old Soviet Union.
Forever Peace, in which the good guys end up spreading peace and love throughout the world using telepathy. Yeah. Uh-huh.
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In Harry Harrison’s “Bill, The Galactic Hero” series the revolutionaries tend to be the good guys.
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I misspoke here. Meant to say “Harry Harrison’s ‘Stainless Steel Rat’ series.”
Umm. In Bill, the Galactic Hero the government was a bunch of evil, clueless morons (that’s how you know it is speculative fiction), so anyone resisting the government would be on the side of the angels, but I don’t know that any such were depicted.
In The Stainless Steel Rat, the good guys were all criminals, not revolutionaries per se.
My own example would be Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson. The good guys were the ones setting up untraceable accounts so that drug lords and people like Hamas and Al Quaeda could launder money.