He was Banned for being a Troll. Not much to defend. However, that’s the point-- banned members are gone. No need to bring them up anymore, as they are irrelevant, except as an example on how not to behave. As that issue was not directly in play, there did not seem to be a need to invoke that name. So Libertarian and I agree, but probably for somewhat different reasons.
The usual lack of merit behind a Daisy Cutter or Milum post stand for themselves. No need to invoke the Banned.
He was Banned for being a Troll. Not much to defend. However, that’s the point-- banned members are gone. No need to bring them up anymore, as they are irrelevant, except as an example on how not to behave. As that issue was not directly in play, there did not seem to be a need to invoke that name. So Libertarian and I agree, but probably for somewhat different reasons.
The usual lack of merit behind a Daisy Cutter or Milum post stand for themselves. No need to invoke the Banned.
“Babbling brook of shit” does have an alliterative appeal. Speaking of poetry, I am currently editing real jaw-dropping Milum phrases into haiku:
So take heart doom-criers
free citizenry knows best,
not knowing better
I have no problem making fun of Alabama, but I try to restrain myself. It’s like boxing with a man on crutches.
HR in N&S Vietnam (I’m including only some of what’s written about the North)
P.S. Since the US had no plan to invade NV and was fighting a “counterinsurgency” war, we were just as close to victory as when we got there.
I’d suggest trying to win the next war. Iraq is just like Vietnam: cleaning up a mess left by the French.
Milum haiku! Brilliant idea!
European countries have
now evolved into state pens
of human husbandry
Or perhaps longer poems:
You Eurotypes are becoming
overrefined and effete
Kinda like ageing aimless bachelors
who still
live with their ageing permissive parents
who still
provide all the accruements
of life
with a minimum of demands.
Such are the rewards of socialism.
Wipes tear from eye That’s beautiful, man.
You mean the British? Or any other assortment of world powers that have had their hands in there.
This is briliant! They were actually French WMD Saddam wasn’t hiding. Thank God for the noble USA.
Cue misty-eyed music, soft-focused fluttering flag, “world-policeman” voiceover . . . God save us from this utter bollocks.
Utter bollocks is right. And they say we Europeans are superior gits.
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The french?
Wasn’t it the US who supported Saddam Hussein and kept him in power for 20 years?
Wasn’t it the US which supported Bin Laden and sent him weapons which he uses now against them?
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Yes, it’s France’s fault for wanting to wait 2 weeks for Blix to finish inspecting before voting to invade, remember?
I’d like to point out that whle the US supported Hussein, they didn’t really keep him in power. He did most of that himself by skillfully playing internal factions off each other, knowing who to bring in to the fold and who to keep down, and was an absolute master at distributing patronage to the right people at the right time.
Even without US support, it’s highly unlikely Hussein would have been deposed any time soon.
Point taken Neurotik, but it’s unclear whether he would have won the Iran/Irak war without US help.
Right. France and Russia did not provide the bulk of the arms to the region. France did not give Saddam a means to build nuclear weapons.
By all means, keep losing your cool every time I state a fact.
Well, even with US help he didn’t really win it. He sort of lost it in that he invaded, was repulsed and achieved none of his objectives. He might have lost a bit of territory (al-Faw) at the most, but there was no way the Iranians were going to be able to march to Baghdad like they thought they would on their counter-offensive. Most likely, the ending would have been the same - stalemate and status quo ante bellum (more or less).
Worse than that, he lumped you in with Milum and Daisy Cutter. <shiver>
Yes, Milum is a piece of work. In a recent thread about the Alabama Tax Plan, I brought up a number of debatable points, and the thread, despite it being in the Pit, was progressing civilly between (primarily) myself, Sauron, mhendo, JCoM, and some others.
Milum then burst in with a largely nonsensical post which I chopped to pieces. Upon his return, he responded with this raging piece of insanity:
I’ll let you either read the thread or take a wild guess at what the above rant had to do with the OP or the discussion at hand, and why he chose to implicitly call me a racist.
According to this 1993 article, the main players were as follows:
Germany 50%
Switzerland 8%
France 5%
Italy 5%
US 3.5%
UK 3.5%
Also bear in mind that France also supplied the equipment for Israel to make its nukes - so really it’s an equal opportunity illegal WMD facilitator
So, er, not really a “fact”, unless you have evidence that’s better than this?
Arms Iranians were killed with a lot of French weapons. The germ samples that the US provided have not been used for anything. “NO WMDs FOUND!!!” Remember?
Note: the US has messed up our foreign policy in the ME on so many occasions I cannot count.
Now, deal with what the French have done. It’s worse.