And how much data do you have on the political leanings of the major actors. Oh right, zero!
I guess I need to start using a a screen recorder for all my social media activity in case it somehow becomes relevant a year later.
The cop who shot Philando Castile displayed what I thought was genuine contrition. I felt for that guy (as well as feeling for Castile and his family and friends, there aren’t any winners in manslaughter) he came pretty much out of the gate with “I fucked up” and really never seemed to stop being sorry. He was acquitted.
The cop who shot Duante Wright seems to be taking the same approach. “I made a mistake. I’m immediately resigning.” She is facing charges, as she should, but she is admitting to the error from the start, so its likely she will plead to manslaughter.
Still, that sort of thing exploits the fact that the crowd is angry. I would hope that the agitators would be smart enough not to do it during what would be more of a celebration (at least, for the first night). And, if they did, I’d not expect people to go for it.
Granted, I have heard of happy rioters, but not from protestors. It’s from drunk sports fans who for some reason do some level of property damage, despite their team having won. Still, I would expect protesters to be smarter than that, since their demonstrations have a purpose.
Plus, while it is a win in a sense, it’s also just the bare minimum. It’s hard to get too celebratory when, despite the overwhelming evidence, we still weren’t sure of the outcome. Plus there was the nearby shooting that happened during the trial.
I still say that reason that the Fox News crowd expected (or wanted) riots was that they imagine black people as particularly lawless and violent. It’s why it didn’t even occur to them that it might be the Blue Lives Matter people, who often carry guns, who would take thing pear shaped.
I know that the BluLM* carried guns at my local towns BLM protests.
*Trying to come up with some abbreviation. BLM doesn’t work, for obvious reasons.
I wasn’t aware about that aspect of the Philando Castile case, but I do appreciate that the Wright case seems to be heading that way.
I wish there was some way to use these cops’ admissions to deepen the dialogue – e.g., how can police be better trained so they don’t mistakenly resort to lethal force – instead of simply viewing them through the lens of what crimes they might be charged with for their actions.
Are the “major actors” we’re discussing specifically people identified as looting and vandalizing, or are they just the protest organizers? Because I’m sure the BLM protest organizers can reasonably be assumed to be “leftist”, but the people engaged in criminal acts during those protests may well cover a wider political spectrum (or just be apolitical assholes).
Without some cites my interpretation is just as good as yours. I read Fox News almost daily; early on they were harping on the guy from Utah who was filming the riot who had leftist posts on social media but since then I haven’t seen anything. If there were major players who were leftists I would expect Fox to be all over it. That doesn’t mean that you’re definitely wrong but the evidence I’ve personally seen is different.
I’m sure that some of the people who show up at a protest hoping to break shot have leftist political leanings. Leftist leanings don’t inoculate people from being assholes and legitimate reasons to be angry may also be attractive to people looking for a pretext to get angry and break shit. And in any case, sometimes legitimately angry people are inappropriately violent. That doesn’t say anything about the legitimacy of the underlying anger and frustration, nor reflect on peaceful protesters who are doing their best to diffuse and redirect that anger into more productive channels.
When society respects property more than people, don’t be surprised when the people stop respecting property.
No, I agree that there exist violent assholes of all ilks. I’m just trying to determine who Living Ghost371 et alia are specifically referring to with the term “major actors”.
I have the testimony of the FBI.
I have the statements of those charged with criminal activity.
This is a major digression from this thread, but no person interested in the facts can conclude that the majority of those that took part in the Jan 6 insurrection were “leftists” of any stripe.
Are you guys talking about the same events? The January 6 insurrectionists were definitely hardcore right-wingers. The participants in the various BLM protests the previous summer were a more mixed bag - predominantly left-leaning but with a healthy dollop of right-wing counterprotesters as well.
And for the Minneapolis riots, I think all of the major players charged were right wing or simply disturbed people from outside the city limits who came to create trouble.
Oh yes, probably we are. Serves me right for jumping into a conversation late. Sorry!
I appreciate where you’re coming from but there wasn’t much time to go through the checklist of de-escalation techniques when there is a knife raised and about to plunge into another person. Based on the body-cam footage, when the officer arrived, within about 1.5 seconds, the knife was raised and going toward that other girl. I don’t think that Ma’Khia even registered that the police were there.
It is sad and tragic but the shooting of Ma’Khia seems justified at this point. But I’m willing to accept new information and the results of any investigation when it comes.
Johannes Mehserle also resigned shortly after shooting Oscar Grant. By doing this, he avoided having to answer questions at an internal police investigation. I don’t know whether Kimberly Potter (who shot Oscar Grant) has the same motivation.
Or, you could stop wandering into threads bloviating about your top secret investigation, without any evidence whatsoever. Your choice.
Or you could do your own investigations rather than just believing the line the leftist media is feeding you that no leftist can ever do anything wrong ever and every right leaning person is the absolute supreme evil.
I’m assuming when Democratic House member John Thompson was terrorizing that family in Hugo and calling for the city to be burned down, he was acting as a right wing plant? And when BLM called for the murder of cops at their state fair protest a few years ago by calling them to be “roasted like pigs in blankets”, those were actually right wing infiltrators too?
Let me guess, I’m a sheeple, right? Only you know the truth?
Yes, those and others too.
Actually, that there can be bad people among leftists does not remove the fact that you really have very bad evidence about Antifa being involved in January 6, in fact many of the right wing stormers of the capitol are annoyed that others are still trying to deny that they were there.
BTW the Examiner is not a left wing media outlet.