Minnesota trial of Derek Chauvin (killer of George Floyd) reactions

The “leftist media” doesn’t remotely promote that idea. You have, however, given quite an accurate description of how the right-wing media lionizes the right and demonizes the left without regard to facts. That you have chosen to project one side’s behavior onto another is rather telling, but not particularly constructive.

And you’re hardly the first person to come to the board, make extraordinary claims and then, when asked to support them with relevant facts, played the “Stop being sheeple and do your own research” card, and I doubt you’ll be the last. You’ve been here a while and still have time to contribute constructively to this board; all you have to do is be prepared to present your “research” when making such claims. Otherwise, I fear you’ll go the same way as those who have come before you.

However, given that this particular thread is in IMHO and it’s specifically a “reactions” thread for the Chauvin trial, an evidence-based debate on the protests probably isn’t particularly relevant here anyway.

As I mentioned, I read Fox pretty regularly. They’ve largely kept quiet about the Capital Riot, probably because it’s almost all bad news for conservatives.

But I’m certainly open to new information. If you have good cites backing up your claims I’d love to read them. That would be part of doing my own investigation and not relying on the leftist media.

^This.

Looking at post 784 (which began this branch of the thread), it’s not clear whether the claim is being made about January 6 or about last summer’s unrest:

The thing is, those who want to sell the message that the right was NOT responsible for January 6 will freely mix in “facts” from other incidents in other places at other times, and claim that they are relevant to the Jan 6 insurrection.

I suspect that’s what we’re looking at in this thread, given the lack of evidence offered by the claimant. In other words, it’s merely an attempt to muddy the question as a means of defending the right.

eta: removing the emphasis I’d put on part of the second quote when replying to it back on 4/22.

Or, that they simply believe that, yes, black lives matter.

Can someone tell me why leftists are allowed to cavort around freely?

We’re talking about the Minneapolis riots, not the Capitol riots.

The thread title is “Derik Chauvin” not “Capital Riots” so I’ve assumed we’ve been talking about the Minneapolis riots. I’ve done no research as to the actors in the capitol riots, but assume they were primarily right wingers angry at their jobs being lost to globalism.

No conservative I know has social media supporting a group that’s publicly called for the murder of Twin Cities police officers.

Or who terrorized children and called for the city of Hugo to be burned to the ground

So I figured it’s a safe assumption that people with that content are liberals.

Turns out that it was Jas09 so I got confused by that, although it shows that most of the right wing media is misleading there too, for the issue at hand it is clear that even there the right wing sources of information leave a lot out.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-extremists/little-evidence-of-antifa-links-in-u-s-prosecutions-of-those-charged-in-protest-violence-idUSKBN23H06J

And speaking of January 6 then, remember that we ended up with dead policemen there. And we still have a mess of Republicans in congress that are actively preventing a serious investigation about who supported the rioters there.

With more than just words BTW.

You’re right about the thread title, of course, but the Jan 6 issue came up in the post to which the person you were replying to (DrDeth) was replying, namely, 742:

(my emphasis) DrDeth replied to that post, and you replied to that DrDeth post. So the chain was pretty short.

This was part of the entire discussion. Granted, your own posts may not have been intended to encompass January 6.


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What you actually appear to be advancing as a “safe assumption” is not that “people with that content are liberals” but more that ‘all liberals approve of this content.’

Such is not the case, and any attempt to imply it is, is clearly bad-faith argumentation. Putting approval of BLM on your social media is not equivalent to endorsing the murder of police officers or the burning of a city.

Right, I approve of BLM and even Antifa (with some reservations) but I have no views like those expressed in those links. In general, I even approve of the Police (with some reservations).

Do any conservatives you know publicly call for the hanging of Mike Pence or the murder of Nancy Pelosi? I’ve heard of a few…

How do the conservatives you know feel about the murder of George Floyd? Do they defend the murderer?

AP on possibilities of Chauvin’s convinctions getting tossed:

I resent the implication that I cavort. I am not, nor have I ever been, a cavorter.

You sound as if you sympathize with these people.

Why would you assume that?

Results of approximately three minutes’ research:

Who Were the US Capitol Rioters? .

researchers at the University of Chicago have concluded that the majority of the rioters were not members of far-right groups but “normal” Trump supporters — part of his political base. Among them were doctors, lawyers, architects and business owners.
[ . . . ]
Sixty-six percent are 34 years or older; 85% have jobs; 13% are business owners, while 27% hold white-collar jobs.

That three minutes’ research also turned up a large number of headlines about people losing their jobs because they’d been identified as among the rioters; which couldn’t very well have been happening if they had already lost their jobs before they joined the riot.

Because that’s more palatable than “angry Republicans who fell for Trump’s lie that the election was stolen so they decided to follow his instructions to storm the capital, override the election, and install a fascist.”

But…but he said “peacefully”!