Not exactly, I intended to distinguish between opinions by saying that Eonwe’s opinion should be accepted “on that basis”. As in, we understand that the opinion is based on the trailer and reviews rather than personal viewing. It’s not identical to personal viewing, but it also is not baseless.
Folks seem to want to dismiss her opinion entirely, which is unfair, opinions aren’t pay to play, though opinions based on personal experience can have greater weight.
I understand that.
I saw American Beauty when my marriage was on the rocks and HATED it. It’s a very good movie but I saw it at the wrong time.
mis-states her opinion to mock it
Objects to her having a “strong” opinion, and suggests she is engaged in review-bombing.
Great, I agree with you, but that is very clearly not why the poster we are discussing objects to porn. If it was, they would have said something like “the porn industry is really shady and lots of women get hurt”, rather than “all porn is inherently harmful to all women”.
Is totally valid, but not what was done here.
And yet, the poster in question did us the favor of clarifying that yes, that’s exactly what she meant:
Clearly, her objection to porn stems from the fact that someone might… oh, the horror, the horror, I can’t bear to say it! Someone might (egads!) pleasure themselves while watching the porn! 
and clearly that is evil and wrong.
I’d have more sympathy for this perspective if your own opinion weren’t so dismissive and full of moral certainty. If it helps, it would take me about ten minutes to line up half a dozen women friends and relatives who would would explain to you in equally impolite terms why your view of this is full of shit.
Wait a second. You think that Beck is saying that she opposes porn because she believes that masturbation, in and of itself, “is evil and wrong”?
That wasn’t my impression. But I’ll leave it up to Beck to clarify that position, if she so chooses.
Well, yes. Or no - I don’t know if she thinks masturbation is evil and wrong, but she clearly thinks that if a woman allows video of her to be used for that purpose, she is doing something wrong, allowing herself to be defiled.
I have no idea how else to interpret these parts of her post:
Emphasis mine.
Again, emphasis mine.
I don’t know if Beck frowns upon a man masturbating to his own imagination, but she is clearly offended by the idea of a man masturbating to images of a real woman, and views this as harmful to the woman (and more than that, harmful in a way that makes it bad to make porn even if a woman says “I am willing to bear this cost in exchange for payment”).
Feel free to have an opinion on a film and express it. And I, and many others, are free to question the basis or completely dismiss said opinion, because you haven’t seen the fucking movie. The credibility I, or someone else, give your opinion will be based at least in part, on your basis of knowledge about the topic. And not seeing the movie makes your opinion of very little consequence to me. YMMV, of course.
Brazil is one of my absolute favorites. Stuff like that, Delicatessen, Man Bites Dog, Eraserhead, Being John Malkovich, anything by the Coens, Jarmush, Lynch, all good stuff.
I haven’t seen it. I understand the cinematography and costuming are excellent. But so far I get that it’s about a beautiful woman creature with the innocence and intellectual maturity of an infant who is pursued by men because they want to fuck her (because men prefer infantilized women?)and they fuck her over and over again until the woman child learns to like it a lot is not a movie theme that I would find appealing or empowering.
What am I missing?
She fucks them because she likes it. She is not taught this by anyone. She likes fucking…so she does it. She also really likes lesbian sex.
The part where you say you haven’t seen it.
This DOES sound like a thought provoking cinematic experience.
If the only substance here is that the tone of those replies constitutes an “attack”, I think this is a weak pitting.
The only way I can see coming to that perspective would be if there were widespread consensus that the film is heavily misogynistic and should be boycotted. Looking around at other perspectives online, it’s controversial but I’m not getting that sense at all. I feel OP is viewing this through a lens of misogynists resisting her efforts to call out misogyny, but that’s assuming a conclusion that is neither in evidence nor widely held. When there is no consensus, cherry-picking third party opinions without having seen it yourself does seem kind of weak to me.
Fair enough but a LOT of context is missing.
I dislike porn because it objectifies women(and people) of being the impossible sex toy. Real women can’t have sex for hours upon hours and just love it over and over and look so beautiful after 5 men have abused, fucked and done every imaginable thing to degrade her body. And then more men come in and do it to her. Rinse and Repeat.
Pornography teaches young men this is how it’s gonna be. And it’s not that way in real life. We are all adults here. We know this. Don’t say you don’t.
I DO NOT care if you masturbate to your hearts content. Go do you.
Oh, goody. My god
Maybe I don’t wanna see this movie.
The entirety of a very complicated movie.
Well I am weak at attacks.
Yeah my understanding possibly misunderstanding of review bombing is post a negative review without having seen something because you have heard from others about it being against some cultural value you have. I created a separate thread to clarify my understanding on that but to me that is exactly what was happening.
To me I was describing the behavior of declaring with confidence how sexist and misogynistic the movie was, in a very sarcastic manner, based on what she has heard.
Awesome! These are real objections that we can discuss, unlike blanket statements like the ones you made earlier.
So, porn thar depicts unrealistic sex is bad because it creates an unrealistic standard.
But you said that ALL porn is horrible for women.
Are you aware that porn is not all “six dudes take turns pounding the crap put of some girl for a couple hours”?
Is porn that doesn’t fit into that category OK?