This. The OP of the original thread address all guys. Then other feminists dump on guys as a whole too. MOL sums up with “that’s why I hate everybody”. Everybody really? Then the subject of your ire (everybody, all guys) means much less.
In post 5 MOL threatens to cut someone, isn’t that a board violation? Why didn’t this OP also call for moderation on that point? Because jokes and sarcasm are part of the board culture or because MOL had an encounter with a total dickhead she gets gets to skirt by.
I like guys as a whole. I certainly have had some of them put my in very uncomfortable situations. But hey, some people are assholes. Welcome to the world.
I agree completely. The internet is a magnet for socially inept young men who are, bottom line, misogynists. It seems to me that the SD should offer some haven from these guys, but instead, they are given free rein.
I once left the Board for several years after objecting to a guy stating that in an ideal world, women would turn into pizzas after sex. I was deluged with hate for not seeing the humor.
Perhaps an admin or mod who has taken the time to read what is very clearly a lively thread could chime in? I mean, it’s fantastic that the rest of you say you don’t have time for such petty things as moderating the board’s threads that you don’t feel like reading, but I think a more informed answer would be well suited here.
This is all my fault. I’m really sorry. It just wasn’t the right time and place to bring up what I did. Like I’be said a few times, I got carried away.
It’s good to talk about these things though. I think I’ll start a thread in GD sometime soon. But, I’d like to do it with some caveats. People really need to tone down the snark and insults. Most of us don’t actually know each other in real life. I don’t know anyone.
I think it’s tough to even talk about these things from a guys perspective because you do have to be careful with what you say. I mean people were bringing up my posting history, and since some of threads are bizarre, whatever I had to say was meaningless. They’re doing it with Ambivalid right now. He’s bitched about parking signs so obviously he’s a hypocrite and everything he says is inconsequential.
If we could stick to the topic at hand without the jabs and assumptions, it would likely be more productive.
I’m not even going to touch this with a 10 foot helicopter dick, because it’s too funny given. . . well, yeah.
Look, it’s fantastic you realize you were wrong and I genuinely do appreciate that. But we’re not talking about your attempt to red herring that thread with a debate about prostitution. We’re not talking about you. We’re talking about a recurring theme of vile, sexist statements being ignored when we definitely have a “don’t be a jerk” rule. As Larry Borgia said, racism would never get the pass that this board’s rampant misogyny does.
No, go ahead and say what you want to say. This is what I’m talking about. Address it directly and factually. I’m willing to listen and I can take it. If others can’t and won’t, then they should t bother posting on serious topics.
I’m not trying to talk about me either. I think there’s a better way to address these issues that includes less snark and personal insults. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Stop hijacking this thread, pan. This isn’t about you or your hijack of the other thread either. It’s about a completely separate issue which you apparently have no constructive contributions for.
On the one hand it’s true that sarcasm is often a shield for saying what you want to say in a joking manner. On the other hand, it’s possible to take this argument too far.
Now there’s a link I didn’t need to click to know where it went.
I was going to say that the implied policy suggestion in the OP is tantamount to declaring a list of banned opinions, but on further reflection, I realized that’s not true — it is declaring a list of banned opinions. LHoD, I know that’s not your intention, and I realize you’ve pointed out the distinction between calmly expressing a viewpoint and couching it behind sneering sarcasm, but perform a bit of reductio ad absurdum on that chain of logic and consider how deep that rabbit hole goes.
If you’re not allowed to indirectly insult people with sarcastic remarks clearly intended to denigrate the entire group to which the target belongs, you’re going to wind up banning half the board by next Thursday. But if, on the other hand, you only want that rule applied to the insulting of certain specific groups, you’ve effectively created a list of forbidden opinions, since behavior that’s acceptable coming from one viewpoint is verboten coming from another. You’d essentially turn the board into the giant circle-jerk the Republicans always accuse us of being. (See what I did there?)
I’m saddened by the existence of bigots as well, and I have no desire to encounter more of them here than I already do in my daily life. Their dogged refusal to cease to exist, though, leaves us with very little choice unless we really do want to create a virtual gated community. Can’t fight ignorance if you don’t let the ignorant join the fight.
IIRC I too made a “calm down women” comment in that thread. First it was sorta a joke. Second, it was because a bunch of WOMEN were jumping the ass of the specific poster. IMO they were taking what he was saying and taking it to extremes and ignoring the basic premise that he was noting. Hell, IIRC, Vinyl Turnip (who will jump your ass in a second) was sorta defending the guy.
And I will also note I made that comment because of a recent AOL (yeah I know) “news article”. And the subject was something of the lines of “two words you never say to woman in an arguement”. Hell, I already knew what that was…“calm down”.
Well, BS. Sometimes you gals do need to be told to “calm down”. Not exactly because you are women when you complain but because you know what? Sometimes your complaints are BS and you DO need to calm down. If I can on occasion tell a man to calm down I can also tell a woman to do the same.
And you are admitting that women are so irrational that ever telling them to “calm down” , even when they perhaps need to, sends them into a blind rage?
Being paternalistic and patronizing does tend to piss people off. Choosing to act on being being pissed off is not irrational. Telling someone who is acting like a patronizing jerk to shut up is being angry, not irrational.
