That is an assertion made by you, not an affirmation of the beliefs and intent of the designers of that flag. If you think that they are that liberal-minded, I have a bridge that you might wish to buy.
No, that is a fact. Not a “assertion”.
And see , this is why I say atheists follow a “religion” of their own, with their own proselytizing of lies.
Riiiiiiiight–because Christians all believe that Allah is the god of the bible…
https://www.rzim.org/read/rzim-global/do-muslims-and-christians-worship-the-same-god
https://www.ciu.edu/content/allah-islam-same-yahweh-christianity
Again, do you actually think that the likely mouthbreathers who likely knuckle-painted that flag in Mississippi were thinking on anything at all other than the Christian god?
I’ve been assuming that the use of “In God We Trust” was a necessary concession to the voters of a conservative state to get the flag changed. If so, I think, on balance, it’s a good thing.
Yes, yes they do . . . now about this son of G-d…
I’m sure if the flag they voted on somehow accidently ended up being “In Allah we trust” all the Christians would just be totally fine with that, since as you say, Allah = God.
They may yet change it again. GA changed theirs twice in 3 years. There was the horrible 2001 design, the notorious flag with a picture of every previous flag on it facepalm. I think they deliberately made it ugly so that they could come back and say “hey, what about this lesser-known confederate flag that just looks like 3 stripes? It’s not controversial and it looks nice.” And that’s where we are now.
Then there should be no objection to adding the words “Roll Tide!” to the Mississippi flag somewhere, in equally large letters to “In God We Trust”.
Y’know, that flag looks competently styled and drawn to me, save for the textual intrusion.
Gather the signatures!
That line was to imply that the “in god we trust” designers were knuckle-walkers, not an indication of design quality.
The odd thing to me is Georgia could have just reverted to their pre-1950s flag (vertical blue band all the way across on the hoist, red-white-red bars on the fly) and it would have been slightly better IMO.
And of course the confederate-nostalgist Butthurt Bois in MS are now trying to gather signatures to force a multiple-choice vote on re-reverting. What else is new.
I preferred the Stennis flag. But, the new flag is a huge improvement over the old one.
Not picking on you specifically, but you were the first to bring this up:
Here’s the rest of the story on IGWT:
In a nutshell, a Christian fanatic manager of the Mint got it added to the coinage the last time the USA had a big Christian revivalist movement (= moral panic) in the mid 1800s. The G he meant was 100% the Christian one and no other. Congress was happy to endorse this move.
The national motto was changed to IGWT and it was added to the paper currency post WWII. For equally bigoted and craven reasons.
The new flag is clearly an improvement. But it certainly represents backsliding in one area while moving forward in another.
No, it is simply the truth. Remember that Christianity started out as a sect of Judaism and took over the god, just adding two more deities to the mix. Islam took over the same god. These are simply truths.
Whether the designers of the flag realized this at all is a different question and one that cannot be determined in this thread. And is a hijack in any case. The new flag is a vast improvement on the old one.
Moderating: If you wish to start a new thread on whether or not Christians generally realize this fact, feel free to do so.
I agree with that. I guess I’m pretty laid back about the “In God We Trust”. It seems minor compared to Confederate symbols.
For those, like me, who are bothered by the “IGWT” on paper currency, two minutes with a sharpie and you can do away with the slogan. I do this and I’ve never had anyone turn away my doctored bills.
I really think it doesn’t make any difference at all what they believe. It is what it is. And no English-speaking Jew or Muslim is going to be offended by it. Atheists, sure. It’s offensive to Atheists. And a little “off” to Buddhists, Hindus, and Shintos.
This. It’s SO much better than the confederate flag. It’s not my firstest bestest choice for what they might have done, but I’m happy.
Tell, you what, you so object to this phrase- send me all those smallish paper items with “in God We trust” emblazoned on them.
You mean those smallish paper items where I have carefully written “In God We Trust”, to express my trust in God (for any definition of God you want to offer)? There aren’t any.
Or do you mean those smallish paper items where the United States Congress has taken it upon itself to claim that I “trust in God” even though I do no such thing? Those smallish paper items that I actually take a Sharpie to so that they don’t say “In God We Trust” on them? (It not being real practical to try to pay for my groceries with euros. Of course, like everyone else, I use little plastic cards with microchips in them more and more these days.)
I’m really struggling with the “logic” here, of how you think that if I object to putting “In God We Trust” on a state flag, that therefore I must…think it’s just fine on the money? That it’s perfectly OK as a “national motto”, just don’t put the phrase on a state flag?
Seriously, explain to me how that reply makes any sense whatsoever.
Seriously, explain to me how that reply makes any sense whatsoever.