For real? Or is it just tough talk? Are the votes there to do this again?
Does even this kind of talk benefit the Republicans? Is it effective at fund-raising? Is it just a cynical ploy to remind the Tea Party people to vote?
Or are they really going to drive off the damn cliff…again?
(And what’s the status with the Lawsuit?)
Again?
linky-link-link?
Somebody needs to introduce the Republican leadership to Vaas.
A little bit different this time. He claims that if the GOP wins a majority in the Senate, he’ll attach riders to spending bills that will limit Obama’s authority to act in certain ways. That leaves Obama with the choice of signing the bills, or shutting down the government.
But this is a huge hypothetical.
I wonder why he’d think having anything less than a supermajority would allow him to pass anything of the sort.
Reconciliation.
“Vote for us, so we can continue to behave like a minority party.” Erm, ok.
They are blocking Obamination’s Socialist agenda… duh!!!
I’d also like to know more about the “arcane budget tactic” that prevents the Democrats from filibustering.
My opinion (as this is a debate thread, and I started only by asking a question) is that this isn’t going to happen, and the Republicans are only yapping about it as a fund-raising tool. When it comes down to it, they’ll actually govern, halfway responsibly. They’ll force Obama to veto a few things, but they won’t force him to veto everything. They know that the American people aren’t so stupid as to think it would be Obama who was the one who was truly obstructionist.
“Here’s a suicide note, and a blank check, and a bunch of blasphemy against Christ. sign it.”
“No!”
“You’re being obstructionist!”
I presume the reference is to using “reconcilliation” to pass a budget through the Senate. I am mystified as to why the MSM keeps referring to this as “arcane,” since it comes up at least a few times during any given administration. I don’t know about all the details, but the basic gist is that there are certain budgetary issues that can be passed by the Senate with a limited debate (which means no filibustering).
Here’s the wiki:
Sure. It’s not something you (or I) want, but it’s not a radical change in tactics or policy. People who happily voted for the Republicans will presumably do so again, knowing what they’re getting. If you believe that government spending is out of control and Obama is arrogating even more unchecked power to the executive branch— ideas that Republicans have hardly been shy about promoting— McConnell is likely to get your vote. I don’t think it’s a good policy, but Republican (or at least McConnell’s) strategy seems to be obstructing the government both to energize their supporters who are concerned about the cost and scope of government, and also to frustrate the opposition and make them lose confidence in the administration. It seems to be working, if not perfectly.
McConnell might know that, but there are idiots in his party who don’t. If the GOP get the Senate too, I think they’ll be so delirious with power that there will be unending calls of impeachment and shutting down the government that will drown out the whispers from the comparatively less crazy leadership. They’ll have political capital, and like a former Republican that we all know, they’ll want to spend it. McConnell’s going to have to do a tap dance around the crazier members like Boehner does but if they control both houses, they won’t be able to blame it on the other house anymore.
The last time there was a government shutdown few who don’t follow this kind of stuff seemed to care or even be aware of it. From the screeching on the left you’d have thought the world was coming to an end. It’s always fun to see the hysterical left be proven wrong so thoroughly.
I want to see a permanent shutdown of a majority of the federal bureaucracy. It shuts down every evening, every weekend and some obscure “holidays” that nobody in the private sector get off. Does it cause the corpses to start piling up? No, nobody gives a shit if some dickhead FCC employee can’t go to his job of looking at porn on his computer for half the day. It doesn’t effect anyone. Nobody cares. The government is useless at best and occasionally harmful to many millions of Americans. Please shut the fucker down forever.
… that was satirical, right?
ba dum ching
No.
I really do want to see a permanent reduction in the size of government. I wouldn’t give even the smallest damn if McConnell shuts down government over a budgetary issue. I was fine with it last time too. 
Saying stuff like this because you don’t care is the height of hubris. Or stupidity.
They have been avoiding that for six years; why would they start now?
Eh, I’ll revise that to “Doesn’t really much effect anyone outside of DC.”
Oh and I suppose some people pretend to care and sensationalize the horrors of the darkness that will creep over the land without the bureaucracy steering the ship.
When the government shuts down for the widely celebrated National Bologna Day three day weekend one would think that the panic would be palpable across the nation. But, no nothing. Somehow the rest of the nation gets along with our daily lives just fine without the Department of
Compliance bureaucrats issuing reams of regulations that nobody can hope to understand much less follow in between sessions of watching porn on their computers.
To hell with the federal bureaucracy. Burn it down.
Good thing I’m for increasing the size of government to balance you out. And government always increases, doesn’t matter if there are liberals or conservatives controlling it, so we’ve been winning for quite a while. There are a lot of people who, like you, talk a big game but when it actually comes down to services you care about, you’ll feed into the government just as much as I do