I can’t believe I missed Smith’s homer! I was fucking with my guitar for like 30 seconds and I looked up and the Dodges were up. Crazy game. Instant classic.
John Schneider blew the World Series. There is no other way to put it. Twice, he left in or brought in a tired started pitching on short rest and the guy gave up a home run. Neither move made any sense; there was no reason to leave Yesavage, who struggled in the seventh, to pitch the eighth. There was no reason to use Bieber in the eleventh. He lost this one through stupidity.
The Jays, and especially him, will never live this epic choke job down. Ever. This was a once in a lifetime opportunity, they had the series won, and he threw it away.
The Blue Jays appreciate your support and optimism. ![]()
I think Madison Bumgarner in the 2014 WS beats him. He pitched 21 innings, giving up 1 run for a 0.43 ERA. He had 17 strikeouts and 1 walk. He won games 1 and 5, including a complete game shutout in game 5, then pitched 5 scoreless innings in game 7 for the save.
Yamamoto was amazing, but it wasn’t unprecedented.
Yikes. This is why they lost.
If Ohtani gets relieved after the 2nd inning, it probably doesn’t get to extras.
It’s hard to put into words how improbable it was for the Jays to lose this Series. They had 11 consecutive scoreless innings in Game 3. It took a one-in-a-million hit in Game 6 for that ball lodged in the bottom of the wall to be a dead ball - otherwise the Jays most likely tie the game 3-3. In Game 7, if that throw to home is just a bit slow or late (it was won by a centimeter), that base runner gets to home plate first and the Jays win the walk-off 5-4. If Pages hadn’t made that difficult colliding catch, the Jays walk off 5-4. Really, it’s hard to load the bases in the bottom of the ninth with only 1 out in a tie game and not win.
Ohtani, meanwhile, is now 7-0 undefeated in playoff series.
Without exaggeration, this has to be one of the top 3 or top 5 best and most evenly-matched World Series of all time.
Why would they most likely tie the game? If the ball caroms off the wall, Straw likely scores and Barger is on second with a double. Even if he doesn’t get doubled off on the Gimenez fly ball, he’s on second with two outs in the ninth.
Blue Jays played well. Taking a Game 7 to 12 innings in the World Series is something. The Blue Jays can be very proud of their achievement.
But wait 'til next year!
Yamamoto is indeed the series MVP, and deservedly so. But as someone indicated upthread, it is precedented as the Big Unit did the same thing in 2001.
Not to diminish Johnson’s feat, but in game 7 Yamamoto threw double the number of pitches (34-17) to get double the number of outs (8-4.) Not unprecedented, perhaps, but still something special all on its own.
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And yet, here you are posting about it. If you really thought baseball was stupid, then the sensible course of action would be to avoid threads about it.
This is an official Warning for threadshitting.
I’m seeing a bunch of xitter-chatter this morning about the short lead taken by Isiah Kiner-Falefa when he was on third with one out in the ninth. Then he was thrown out by an inch. Also, he did not need to slide…if he runs through home plate, he very well might beat the throw.
Excellent point. By leaving his feet (to slide), he lost a little velocity. He likely scores.
I am a bit surprised that this series went 7. I’m pleased, mind you, and I enjoyed the 7 games, but when comparing the teams I thought (in my not well-educated opinion) that the Dodgers were the far stronger team than the Blue Jays. Would it be accurate to say that the Blue Jays played well above their skill level while the Dodgers played below theirs? That the Blue Jays overperformed while the Dodgers underperformed?
It was a collision between a team whose regular season was high offense & low defense against a team with low offense and high defense.
Those matchups are inherently unstable and lead to blowouts one way or the other, or to low-scoring almost-ties. Depends on which side is hot(ter) on any given night.
He almost certainly reaches the plate before Smith’s foot came back down. The World Series would have ended with a review and the stadium would have gone nuts. It’s gonna be a long offseason for Kiner-Falefa (not that you can blame one just one guy when you lose a series.)
You can pretty easily make the argument that bad baserunning cost the Jays the series. I can’t recall a team losing so many runners in the bases across seven games, often in very important situations.
IKF is just one (although I think it happened to him twice) but it’s even worse for him because he’s basically a pinch runner. It’s his entire reason for being in the roster to score in that spot.
It wasn’t improbable at all. It’s baseball.
It seems improbable to you because you prematurely declared the series over two ago with no real reason to do so.
Winning two baseball games on a row on the road happens all the time.
+/- 100 days until Spring Trainig!
Too soon to start talking about a three-peat? ![]()
Enormous respect for the Toronto relief pitchers who all had Alex Vesia’s number written on their caps. Vesia, a reliever for the Dodgers was not on the roster in the WS due to a “deeply personal family matter” which may or may not have something to do with his wife being pregnant. Toronto deserves props for what was a very classy thing to do.