MLB: August 2012

The Indians came back from a 12-0 deficit against Seattle on August 5, 2001. After 5 and 6 innings they were down 14-2. They won 15-14 in 11. Here’s the box score.

I can’t remember where I heard the story - I think it was a Mariners broadcaster relating it … the Dodgers, in a game some years back had run up a 15-0 lead in the first inning and still hadn’t made a third out. The umpire called a strike on what was clearly a ball, and the batter started to argue. The umpire came back with something like, “Son, if you don’t think you can win with a 15-run lead, there’s no hope for you. Let’s get this thing over with and go home.” :smiley:

Oh god I remember that game. Right in the middle of the 116-win season, too. I couldn’t turn it off. It was like seeing an airplane crashing into a train as the train was running into a school bus stuck on the tracks, and you can’t look away. I (and probably everybody else listening to it) was just waiting for the M’s to put a stop to the bleeding, but it didn’t happen.

And then the next day they reverted to form and continued to kick the league’s ass until the playoffs. That game was a strange, strange bump in the road.

OK, I see what you’re after. I thought you meant the pitcher shouldn’t get credit for the strikeout.

I do agree that a batter who has just committed Strike Three should be out right where he stands, with the ball becoming dead too, before it even reaches the catcher. Why should the batter and his team benefit from his failure? Only because it so rarely happens has the rule, as archaic as some others, not been changed.

If the catcher catches the ball, then it’s a strikeout and the ball is dead. No further play can be made.

If the catcher drops the ball, the ball is in play. A “passed ball” by the catcher is an error and the penalty is that the batter gets to take first base. If there is a runner on first, then the runner has to begin advancing. There, you have two runners in motion and with the catcher in control of the ball, an easy double play.

The batter is not benefiting from his own failure. He’s benefiting from a defensive error by the catcher.

He’s already done everything required to be out. So why is he not out and why is the ball still in play?

Because it takes both the offense and the defense to make an out. The out doesn’t happen until the ball is in the catcher’s control.

Oh, shit fucking shit.

Melky Cabrera suspended 50 games for testosterone.

That does explain a few things, although I’m sorry to hear it.

[QUOTE=USA TODAY]
Cabrera lauded the influence of his mother on his career after he won All-Star Game MVP honors in July.
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“Did you eat all your steroids today, Melky?”

Agreed on both counts.

As to strike three becoming a dead ball situation with the batter immediately out - wouldn’t that destroy the strike-em-out-throw-em-out DP, one of my favorite baseball plays of all?

Well, shit. He’s just plain stupid. Is it really that much trouble for these guys to *not *take PEDs?

But hey, Mota comes off *his *suspension in about 10 more games…

:smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:

Ha-ha! Couldn’t have happened to a nicer team. :stuck_out_tongue:

Oh yeah!?! Well what about…err, remember…that is…ah hell…I got nothin’.

: psst. Manny Ramirez. Don’t tell anyone I told you.:

So, is this the nail in the coffin for the Giants? He was 70% of their offensive production right?

Well. There goes the season for the Giants. On the other hand, this is great advertising for testosterone. “Become the MLB hit leader in one easy step!”

Damn, what a gut punch.

Posey was actually having a better year already. But both were top 5 in OWAR.

No, it isn’t.

Cabrera is somewhere between 4 and 5 WAR over the course of the year so far. So losing him is - assuming he continued to play as well as he had - worth two games. It’s not good for the Giants, but it’s not exactly a super duper long shot to ask the rest of the team to pick up two wins in a month and a half. Tim Lincecum by himself could make that up if he reverts halfway to usual form.

Should the Red Sox ship out the movable pieces? They’ve already decided they don’t like the guy, so IMO it’s better to give them their wish before they quit on him, and ruin the rest of the clubhouse.

Felix Hernandez is throwing a perfect game against the Rays. He just struck out the side in the eighth to reach 10 strikeouts. Seattle leads 1-0.

Thanks, the game is free today on MLB.tv if anyone wants to watch.

If the Giants pitching staff stay uninjured, I don’t see them just softly vanishing from the race. But two games could make the difference at the end.

What is it about West Coast teams that makes them pluck down big bucks for druggies?