MLB - End of April

Yankee fan in Red Sox territory here:

The buzz on sports talk radio here in Boston was that simply being on the same team with Petite wasn’t enough incentive for him to go with the Yankees, and that he would go to the Red Sox because 1) that would give him the best chance for another World Series win and 2) it would give his career “symmetry” ( :dubious: ) by finishing up where he started out.

Reasonable people could disagree on #1 but in retrospect #2 was just wishful thinking on their part.

I thought he’d end up as a Yankee. In my mind, Houston wasn’t a possibility. Boston was the next best guess with the “best chance to win” card being played either way.

Well, now Clemens got everything he wanted and got to ride the White horse in for the “Rescue”.

I’m a Yankee Fan, and I am dumbfound the the dollar figure. Every cent that Cashman shaved off the payroll, must have just went to this [del]brigand[/del], I mean Hall of Famer.

I finally found confirmation that “Clemens would cost a prorated salary of $28 million”

Jim

Well, the rockies have had a tough April, but things are starting to look better. We just won two in the series against the reds, and we have been hitting and pitching better as a team. It seems the problem so far has been a lack of consistency, and the players not coming together as a team. I also think Clint Hurdle has been making some bad management choices (like intentionally walking the bases loaded, and pinching Steve Finely for Chris Inenetta instead of Yorvit Torrealba, who has to play for him anyway, cause he is the only other catcher.)

But Todd Helton and Matt Holiday are swing like champs, and Troy Tulowitzki is coming around as well. When our injured pitchers come back, we will be a force to be reckoned with in the NL West!

And whose idea was it to extra-dramatically personally announce it in person at Yankee Stadium during the seventh inning stretch? :rolleyes:

Makes me want to go buy this New Yorker cartoon on a T-shirt.

Maybe they’re going to sublet Carl Pavano to him for part of that $28MM. You know, as a butler or something.

Sounds like Cashman, Clemens, Hendricks and the Boss decided on the announcement.

Pavano should be his Ottoman, it is all that the bum is good for.

Jim

And on top of that, the ‘actual’ cost will be $26 million for 4 months when you include the luxury tax hit.

Red Sox fan here… I never particularly wanted Clemens. Actually, I had a little dream that would never have happened but would have made me all warm and fuzzy inside: The Yankees and Astros fall out of contention altogether by the end of May, and Clemens, ever the mercenary, calls up the Red Sox. “Hey, guys, you want me for the end of the year and the playoffs?”

Of course, the proper response from Theo would then be, “Well, we think we’re doing pretty well, but hey, you can never have enough bullpen depth, right? You can still do long relief at your age?”

Alas, that won’t happen now.

Thanks for that link. I just bought that shirt for my wife. Who’s from Boston. :smiley:

I’m a lifelong Yankee fan, but I hope Clemens’ ERA is about 600.00 and he injures himself, not terribly serious mind you, just in time to miss the postseason.

ERA of 600? That would be 5400 runs per 9 innings, or 200 runs per an out. If he gave up 200 runs while only making one out, he wouldn’t need to be injured in order to miss the post season, no manager worth anything would play him.

Was his return to NY inevitable last year and the year before, when he re-signed with Houston both times? Yeah, I knew the Yankees had the money to get this done. But the other teams could have and would have spent that much if they wanted to. (Boston, I hear, offered less because they don’t need the pitching help.) But Houston paid him a similar amount last year, and paid $18 million for a full year in 2005.

Not that it always works… The payroll disparities in baseball bother me a lot, actually, and I was very glad this year to see the Yankees get younger and more economical (although I don’t know if the payroll is actually down), and I look forward to seeing more smart baseball and less profligate spending.

There are things it’s rational to criticize the Yankees for and things there aren’t. I never thought this was a done deal, and I think this happened because, despite the resources, the Yankees didn’t have that many other options. They weren’t going to trade Hughes or Sanchez or a top prospect, and they weren’t going to get too far with whatever castoffs were out there.

uh… your maths are wrong here. 200 runs while making one out (1/3rd inning) would result in a 5400.000 ERA

It would take 23 runs with one out would yield a 621.00 ERA

It could be, I’m studing for Organic Chemistry, not math, so I’m not in a math set of mind. But tell me where I went wrong.

ERA is runs divided by 9 right? So 600 times 9 is 5400. There are 27 outs per 9 innings, so 5400 divided by 27 is 200.

Now, did I make a mistake in my math? Or am I remembering incorrectly and ERA isn’t runs per 9 innings?

ERA is runs per 9 innings, but that means it’s:

(Earned runs * 9)/(innings pitched)

:smack:
Ah, I see. Thats what happens when you are thinking of the Wolf-Kishner Reduction and not sports… I need to learn whats more important in life. :stuck_out_tongue:

Ummm…considering the gap between first and second id 5.5 games, and the gap between second and last place is two games…no, not really that disappointed.

I wasn’t thinking literally, just a little poetic license to express my extreme disgust for this piece of trash.

I figure Clemens blows out his elbow or shoulder in his fourth or fifth start and is done for the year. Hey, it’s bound to happen eventually when you put that much mileage on the moving parts. Either way, the Yankees will be back in the race soon, and we’ll just have to deal with the usual situation, so I don’t see it as that big of a deal. Just more of same.

The local nine is having a tough time, basically fielding a AAA team at this point, but they’re .500, one game back, with lots of time ahead. I’m starting to think the future bodes well for the A’s, once they get their team (Bradley, Piazza, Kotsay, Harden, Loaiza) back.

CoG888, I admire your enthusiasm, but the Rockies are aptly named, because they always have a mountain to climb. They’ve got four better teams ahead of them in the standings (even the Giants, who are showing me more than I thought they had). If they don’t improve that road record, or their division record, it won’t matter who’s swinging the stick well or what pitchers they get back.

I would like the Giants and Yankees to play each other in an interleague game, and have Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds collide on a play at first base, resulting in career-ending injuries to the both of them. Does that make me a bad person? :slight_smile:

Honestly, probably not. He will be wearing the Pinstripes again, but I can well understand having no love and even hatred of Clemens. Bonds, well, I already said what I think of Bonds.

Jim