MLB: The Playoffs

Bad news: a Texas team in the World Series. Good news: it’s not Houston.

I don’t know, if you sat up all night you might find a World Series I’d be less interested in watching. I don’t know if anyone started the year saying “oh boy, I hope it’s Texas and Arizona in the World Series”.

There’s always next year. Hope the Yankees wean themselves off of this analytics fad. Stop looking at spin rates and exit velocities, start looking at heart and character and ability to win.

Really bad news for Fox! Unless you consider the Dallas/Fort Worth area a major market, it’s “The Disaster in the Desert” in terms of the ratings it’s going to get.

Could have been worse. Brewers/Twins would have been a ratings black hole.

Is Bruce Bochy a masterful manager? Is he making all the right moves? Or at least, most of them are right?

Argh!!! :flushed:

Should I flag your post for being unacceptably graphic in nature? LOL

Who in the world doesn’t consider Dallas/Ft. Worth a major market? Or Phoenix for that matter?

I don’t understand the complaints. Texas spent big money over the last couple years putting together a monster of a team that’s fun to watch. Arizona spent the off-season making shrewd moves (sorry, RickJay) to bolster their young up-and-coming roster of prospect studs. These are really good teams playing really good baseball. It’s a pity deGrom isn’t healthy, though.

All this bitching that oh the Yankees or the Dodgers aren’t in the series. Piffle! That’s a bonus as far as the rest of the country is concerned.

As a Giants fan, I don’t mind. Really, I don’t mind.

Sure. As a long-suffering Twins fan, I expect it.

Much as I would have enjoyed such a ratings disaster, the prospect of snow ball is unappealing.

Pretty much anyone who doesn’t live there. LOL

Okay, seriously, Dallas and Phoenix together have about 2.7 million people. New York and LA have about 12.5.

Doesn’t mean they watch the World Series, or baseball at all. I know plenty of people whose lives are dominated by sports and they don’t watch much baseball. If the Red Sox ever have another good year they might watch some but even then they won’t bother with the regular season before September. Baseball is not entertainment anymore, it’s become a chore in comparison to all the other ways to distract us from the pointlessness of life.

The Dallas media market is the 5th largest in the country with 3 million, Phoenix is 11th with 2.1m. Sure - no one is going to dispute NY (7.7m) or LA (5.8m) (cite) isn’t larger, but that wasn’t the question.

Yes, but the size of their media market isn’t the answer, either, it is the size of their causal fan following. The Cubs, for example, have a very large nationwide following. In their World Series season, it was common to hear loud cheering for the Cubs when they were the visitors in other cities. I remember how upset the Brewer management was about the huge Cubs crowd at their games.

You’re the one that brought up media market sizes as to why the ratings may not be good. :man_shrugging:

I don’t think anyone doubts that New York and LA are the two biggest markets, but Dallas-Fort Worth is absolutely a large market even by MLB standards. Most estimates put it as the fifth biggest media market in the USA, which makes it the fifth or sixth biggest in MLB (Toronto is arguably a little bigger) and three of the markets ahead of it have two teams in them.

Phoenix isn’t as big but it’s probably in the top half, definitely not small. The REAL small markets are Milwaukee, Kansas City, Cincinnati, San Diego, places like that.

Ok seriously, that’s spoken like by someone that never looked at a map. :slight_smile:

The DFW metro area is the fourth largest in the country (behind, naturally, NYC, LA and Chicago), and Phoenix metro is tenth.

Plus it is the ARIZONA Diamondbacks, so the whole state is the market. 7.5M.

I have an idea. Why don’t we let this years World Series ratings have the final word on this discussion? If it shows well, I will publicly post a formal surrender! LoL

If not … … you must post a tribute to my sports acumen! :smiling_imp:

I don’t think anyone has suggested that the World Series will do well in the ratings - it has consistently been declining. You’ve claimed the ratings will be poor for at least two completely different reasons. I could add an arbitrary third reason and be just as correct.

Yeah, the last three Series have ranked 49th, 47th, and 48th in ratings over the last 50 years. (1994 didn’t have a series.)

Even 2018, which had the Red Sox and Dodgers, only ranked 42nd in this list.

World Series Television Ratings (1968 - 2022) | Baseball Almanac (baseball-almanac.com)

The “share” (percentages of viewers watching) was yuge in the 60s when there were only three channels. But that has dropped faster than the total number of people watching. There are less actual viewers now than in the 60s, when the population was 100M fewer.

Still, I’ll be watching, and that’s all I care about. :slight_smile: