No, we didn’t. I stumbled across the four-page thread after it was already closed after I saw some very weird mod notes, started my own because I didn’t know what the hell was going on here that was closed after a handful of replies, and any other attempts to discuss it were shut down. I’m here all the time - I can’t be the only person who didn’t realize a whole discussion was going on without me.
Be that as it may, that ship has sailed now. I don’t think these new rules are going to work, because they’re too freaking complicated with far too much grey area, subjectivity, and room for rules-lawyering. I didn’t think we needed any more rules in this area anyway - I agree that the rules we already have cover these situations adequately.
Agreed. I think we do much better on vague, judgement-call things like this when the membership as a whole gently steer the ship in the direction of not being jerks to each other. If adolescent “tits or GTFO” type posts aren’t encouraged, perhaps they would decrease without the need for any hard and fast rules, sort of like our culture of using proper writing and grammar - if you want to L33t it up in here, you won’t feel welcome, so you’ll go find a board more to your liking.
Very well said.
I think that is a terrible idea. If I wanted to hang out on a women only board, I could go find one.
What makes you so sure that it wouldn’t happen? Seriously, if a friend in a group drops having serious constipation or diarrhoea into a not-private conversation, there will be a range of responses, but you can bet that outright mockery and poop or anal sex jokes are going to be among them.
And making lewd jokes is one way, among others, that adults handle discussions of otherwise personal or private body functions.
I don’t see what would be wrong with just adding a new forum for serious topics only. It needn’t be just for women. That’s no more “ghettoizing” it than having an elections forum.
Of course, I don’t think it’s very wise to seek medical advice from an internet message board, but hey, I’m not most people.
Correction: that’s what your friends do. That’s fine if you and your friends have that dynamic, but this isn’t your friend’s house. This is a messageboard where there is no such thing as freedom of speech. If I’m at a party at a friend’s house and he says he doesn’t want to hear my lewd jokes I’d be a jackass to pout and tell him “But I WANT to tell lewd jokes!”
Really? Instead of expecting adults to be able to keep their fingers from typing lewd comments we should expect people who are having a serious conversation to go hide it so the people who can’t control themselves can’t see it?
There are plenty of silly threads to be silly in. Hell there was a woman not long ago who made a thread with animated gifs of her jiggling boobs for everyone who wanted to play along. If there are people here who cannot for any reason keep themselves from doing all the things The Man™ is preventing them from doing in every.single.thread then why not make a “NSFW Boobiethon!” thread for everyone to play in if they absolutely need it? Most hosts of a party provide a toilet for their guests to use, you could have an ongoing LEWD COMMENTS THREAD OMGZ to serve as such a place so we don’t have to feel like we’re posting at a high school rave.
So no, this is not a “public” messageboard in the sense that it belongs to the public. It can be read by the public, but it’s private and the rules are established by those it belongs to. Just like that mixed-group you’re envisioning, if it isn’t at your house you don’t get to decide how the party is laid out.
And I would repeat here, if this rule were applied only to situations in which the lewd remark was directed specifically at another poster on this board, I would be more comfortable with this outcome. Otherwise, this is just a nightmare.
So, objecting to the level of censorship that might be part and parcel to this new rule is off limits? Not part of the legitimate debate?
If that is correct, then you need to Mod about half the posters in this thread and quick.
If that is not correct, then is the problem simply using the word “disgusting” in this thread? And if that is, in fact, the case, what is so horrible about that word? Are there other words that you personally find so unsettling that you’d like to exorcise them from this discussion, as well? Just so I or other posters don’t get into trouble, can you let me know if any of these other words and phrases rise to the level of “disgusting” in your book:
magellan01, I’m getting very tired of you trying to do this in every thread. My original instruction was pretty clear, and Red Barchetta can speak for himself. He does not need your help. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread except this, you can stop now.
Melodrama aside, I was simply giving a counterpoint to Dorkness’s notion that those who want to make off-color jokes should go find another place to do it.
The SDMB has been around for a while—I’ve been here over 10 years, and “gross” humor (as LHOD chooses to call it) has been a part of the board the entire time. The campaign to fuzzily declare some of it off-limits, however, is a very recent development. It’s pure chutzpah for the self-appointed reformers to advise longtime posters to seek out a board of their own. Put your tacky wallpaper up in your own space.
Uh, yes, that’s the point. The people making sweeping generalizations about what kinds of behavior is appropriate are the ones who are making presumptions.
I’m curious as to why you find it necessary to make this “Respect My Authoritah!” kind of remark. So far as I can tell no one here has questioned the right of the administration here to make rules. So, really, what this boils down to is—
A: I am not comfortable with this new rule. B: I have the power to make rules!
So, really, a non sequitur.
Let me tell you what, I don’t talk about my wee-wee and poopy problems in a lot of places—not in front of my parents’ friends for example, or at work in front of my colleagues, or on the subway, or in a taxi, or in front of a live television camera. I don’t figure I have a reasonable expectation that those subjects are going to be treated with the utmost respect.
I really don’t know what implication this is meant to have.
But I’ll reiterate this. A thread about a Bottomless Protester With a Cross Shaved Into Her Pubic Hair is a silly thread and a sexual one. It might also have some serious content. But it is also a silly, sexual thread.
And this: A thread about a Tin-Pot Sorority Dictator Who Executes a Filthy Diatribe Exquisitely Laced With Multiple Forms of Profanity Laden With Suggestions of Female Sexual Submission for the Utmost of Petty Reasons is also a silly thread, and a sexual one. There might be a tiny quantum of serious content in there, but it is mostly a silly, sexual thread.
If I had intended to have a completely serious discussion about the “pantsless Pope,” I would have put it in Great Debates, not MPSIMS. I think the rules are a good start, but I still think the forum itself should be the deciding factor on whether or not a thread is “serious.”
What I meant was, we don’t need an exclusive forum for women; there are other message boards that cater to women only - we don’t need to create a space like that here, in my opinion.
Part of my lack of interest in the idea is that if we created a women only forum, we should also create a men only forum, and they both sound silly and unnecessarily restrictive to me.
Are you of the opinion that I’ve contributed nothing to this thread than pointing out that I thought you were in error regarding something you wrote and asked you to clarify? Interesting.
I simply and politely pointed out where I thought you made an error due to a misreading of a poster’s post. I don’t think you’ve answered it well, so I sought clarification. I’ll leave it at that. But just for the record, I was sticking up for the thought expressed in this wise post, as it applies to Red Barchetta and all other posters:
And I notice now that there are participants in the thread that keep redirecting the discussion to situations in which the poster, personally is being subject to these kinds of comments. That’s not a valid analogy for either the Bottomless Poster thread or the Foul-Mouthed Sorority Rant thread.
So, if we’re going to analogize this to a group of friends, then I’ll have to say that my analogy is even stronger. So the situation is lewd jokes made about strangers in the news for doing ridiculous things.
I also agree. The mods aren’t considering this. It makes no sense, doesn’t add anything, and as I said, it doesn’t address the problem people were talking about in the first place.