Modern Day Christians in America are NOT persecuted!

I am so sick and tired of the religious right pissing and moaning that they’re being “persecuted” for their beliefs. I’ve seen it here as well, with people like His4ever, who claims she is abused for speaking “the truth”.

No, you are NOT being persecuted! You are being DISAGREED WITH and CRITICIZED.

I don’t see HOW that can possibly compare to real persecution. People in the early days of Christianity, under the Roman Emperors (prior to Constantine), were REALLY persecuted for being Christians. They were tortured, murdered, etc. THEY were martyrs.

You, Mr. John Q. Bible-Thumper, are NOT. To insinuate you are is just disgusting.

“Modern Day Christians in America are NOT persecuted!”

It’s kind of amazing that something so bloody obvious even needs to be said. But apparently it does…

Then again, those to whom it needs to be said are usually the ones who are completely immune to rational thought.

Anyone know where I can get a couple or three lions?:slight_smile:

The day I can’t burn witches at the stake is the day I pack up and move to Mexico.

But that would mean the atheists have won!

:: d&r ::

“Modern Day Christians in America are NOT persecuted!”

If the stupid fucking email forwards my mother in law sends are anything to go by, some of 'em deserve to be.

Might I suggest the brand spanking new"Life in Our Anti-Christian America" tract?

Guin, you are totally correct. As a matter of semantics, modern-day Christians in America are generally not being persecuted, in the sense of torture and/or murder, for their beliefs.

However, dealing with vehement criticism with very little support can be difficult. No, the religious right is not being tortured or murdered, but large amounts of disagreement and/or criticism can be rather frustrating. When citizens who live in America in the present time often have very little experience with violent and brutal persecution, it can seem demoralizing to hear what seems like constant disagreement and criticism.

I agree. “Persectution” is a very heavy word. Well, I shouldn’t say that it never happens, but it isn’t the big commonplace deal that people like His4ever want to paint it to be.

However, on occasion I (and other family members) have felt “ganged up on” because of our faith. (In the context of a conversation or argument.) We are treated as if our feelings didn’t count, ridiculed, etc. Christians, just like any other group, is not immune from this kind of treatment.

I’ve also been “ganged up on” for not liking football, not liking President Clinton, and not liking rock music. (All at the workplace, I might add.) It wasn’t the most traumatic experience in my life, but it was unfair, and irritating. But being “ganged up on” isn’t exactly persecution, unless it is really over-the-top and grotesque (which it was not in my case).

Of course, there was that one time… (this is a story I’ve told before, but bear with me). In a part time job I had several years back, I was hired with the understanding that I would not work Sundays. This was OK, everyone else had days they couldn’t work for a variety of reasons (day care concerns, night class, etc.). My reasons for not working Sundays was church. Church, and the fact that Sundays were a good “family day”.

This was all fine and good for a long while, until a new boss came in. She started a subtle and then not-so-subtle campaign to get me to work Sundays. She (and her underlings) belittled my reasons, argued with me, tried to browbeat me into working Sundays. Basically, she thought she could decide which reasons for not working certain days were “good enough” reasons. I didn’t think it was her place to decide this. After all, I was HIRED with the understanding that I was “unavailable” on Sundays. No reason was given on my job application, and I felt the reasons were not relevant.

Long story short, she finally gave me the ultimatum: I had to work Sundays. That was it. I put in my two-weeks notice. (I was revving up to quit anyway, and who needs this bullshit?) I know the boss was shocked. She tried to be nice and keep me to stay, but I was also called a “religious fanatic” by one of her assistants. (I hasten to add here that I never made a big production of my religion at work, didn’t talk about it hardly at all. I just wanted Sundays off.)

Now, that, to me, was unfair treatment based on my faith. But was it “persecution”? Possibly. But, this boss had a screw loose anyway. She also wanted me to come in and work the day of the big Northridge Quake in '94, even though I had two handicapped people to look after at home. The boss said that had I children at home to care for, that would have been a “good enough” reason to miss work. But two handicapped adults? Not a “good enough” reason. (Suffice it to say I didn’t come into work anyway.)

I think maybe we should start persecuting them again. Not only would it be greatly satisfying to pay the religious back for their past persecution of others, they would probably enjoy it too. Religion thrives in adversity.

That is some funny stuff.

WTF? That thing seriously claims that “the majority of Americans are atheists” and that Wiccans are the second most numerous, and Hindus the third. Where do they get that?

Oh, and the Supreme Court is loaded with atheists.

:smack:

Sure they are. But only by, it seems, other Christians.

Umm…on further examination, it appears to be a parody. How embarrassing…

Is this sarcasm, or is this representative of your true beliefs, Badtz Maru?

Gotcha Ya!

Heehee. “On closer examination, these are loafers.”
:wink:

Loafers?

Hey, give me a break—I just woke up. My blood-caffeine level is low. :o

(Note to self: Never post before coffee.)

Ben: I’m not sure, but it’s either in reference to a kind of shoe or a hateful slur against “motivationally challenged” people.

I’d explain it, but I’m scared of being whooshed again.

(Hint: Simpsons reference)